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September 23rd, 2003, 06:29 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
It's not 8/10, but yes pirating is rampant. However it has NOTHING to do with game price. It has more to do whether people think it's okay to steal other people's property. Plain and simple.
I do agree copy protection is worthless, that's why we don't waste any money on it.
However let this be a warning, encouraging others to do something illegal on these Boards is not permitted. If you post about pirating Dominions again (And I am talking to Reaper) I will ban you and report you to the authorities (we have your IP and we have done this before).
Feel free to discuss the game, but don't advise people on how good it is to steal from developers. Or maybe you would like it if I ripped whatever comapny it is you work for off.
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September 23rd, 2003, 06:32 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
I agree with Richard, stop posting about warez here, we all know that it is a huge problem!
Btw Richard reporting someone to the authorities wont help. He was talking about warez, that isnt illegal, its just annoying. 
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September 23rd, 2003, 06:35 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
Actually that's not necessarily true.
And if nothing else, after being warned, it's considered abuse to continue posting against a Boards policies. I can report him to his ISP for abuse.
I don't want to do that, but I won't tolerate the discussion of illegal activities on our Boards.
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September 23rd, 2003, 06:44 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
about protection scheme, the best one I have found so far was the one implemented in Galactic Civilization. To retrieve each patch, you have to send Online your game key, which is unique. Even after retrieving a patch, there is embedded in them Banned keys (a growing list it seems, I suppose they ban a key if there is a mass download of patches with the same key).
Sure you can play a cracked galciv in 1.0 (I suppose, I own the game and can prove it  ), but aside that you need a legit key to get the numerous improvements.
Thats one of the benefit of distributing games Online. Perhaps Shrapnel should establish a secure download connection for patches, with the request of having a legit key when you want to grab a patch. Personaly, thats would not bother me much, and whats more I think that the idea of all these pirates being fooled would give me much joy
[ September 23, 2003, 17:46: Message edited by: Pocus ]
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September 23rd, 2003, 06:49 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
Actually they don't need ot go that far. When you issue a patch it almost always breaks whatever crack someone has used. So the approach makes sense, but I doubt you neeed to spend all of that money to setup a special setup like that.
But in the end I think we pick up more audience by folks who can use our games on their laptops easily then we loose due to pirating.
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September 23rd, 2003, 07:46 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
This is off-topic again, but I finally realized what it is that I found AoW lacking...combinations of abilities and spells. I never saw much use for clever combos that made use of otherwise not great abilities...what i mean by this is:
In dominions, flagellants are decent cheap blessable attackers but are HORRIBLY exposed to missle fire.
Also the dom 2 blessing with air that protects against missile weapons is probably pretty decent on its own too.
However, when the two abilites are combined you have more effectiveness than just the sum of the two seperately.
I just didn't see many oppurtunities for that sort of thing in AoW and I am a great fan of that sort of thing, where you can take two potentially weak units/spells and get a great clever combo from them that is useful. I think this sort of thing is what part of what makes every unit in dominions useful where I found relatively few AoW units to be worth using.
Not to say that AoW is a bad game...I just like effectivly combining things...wolven winter (cold +3 modifier on target province) for another example is useless on its own almost but with the right situations can be wonderful
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September 23rd, 2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Why such a high price?
yes true, any exe will be cracked in a matter of days.
to be precise, Galciv run without cd on a pc, so there is no hassle here. The filter comes when you want to download a patch.
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Originally posted by Richard:
Actually they don't need ot go that far. When you issue a patch it almost always breaks whatever crack someone has used. So the approach makes sense, but I doubt you neeed to spend all of that money to setup a special setup like that.
But in the end I think we pick up more audience by folks who can use our games on their laptops easily then we loose due to pirating.
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