Themes

Nerfix · #1 September 21st, 2003, 10:08 AM

*starts to lurk for info snippets*

Daynarr · #2 September 21st, 2003, 11:03 AM

Lets just say that Pythum has a nice theme I really like (won my first game with it). You have less special commanders (not units) but you get a special mage-priest commander with poison immunity (priest level 3, level 1 water, level 2 nature and has a random magic pick as well). So its great all around unit that costs only 180 gold! It�s going to be hard to stop them when they lead Hydras, trust me, and they are excellent for taking care of Ermor. I was even able to take out Atlantians with them since they have water magic; well them and sea troll kings

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Also they are possibly the shortest path to mass produce vine men/ogres since they can get level 3 nature, make a staff that gives you nature +1, then make a staff that gives you nature +2 and bonus to summoning vine men/ogres (you need level 4 in nature to make this staff), and make a crown of ivy king that gives additional bonus (or just summon ivy king - you need level 5 in nature which that staff will give). I know that ivy king with that staff could summon 6 ogres in 1 turn costing only 1 nature gem! And my mage with crown and staff could summon 7 vine men (not as much ogres as ivy king) per turn. So you get army real fast that costs almost nothing in gold or supplies. Best thing to stop Ermor in its tracks since those armies wont care for lack of supplies in their territories.

Nerfix · #3 September 21st, 2003, 11:12 AM

I know what those mage-priest-commanders are:
Serpent Acolytes
Am i rigth, do i have prophet skilz?

And i believe the "staff" that gives you +1 to nature is Thistle Mace. The other "staff" is something new.

[ September 21, 2003, 10:16: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Daynarr · #4 September 21st, 2003, 11:26 AM

Correct. The other staff is Treelord's Staff (two handed weapon).

Nerfix · #5 September 21st, 2003, 12:20 PM

Treelord's Staff is in Dominions I too. I forgot that it would give you bonus to Vine >critter< summoning.
Does Caelum have Harab Seraph theme? I think i saw it being mentioned somewhere, but i'm not sure...

Daynarr · #6 September 22nd, 2003, 01:21 AM

I belive so, but I don't play Caelum much so I'm not sure.

Pocus · #7 September 22nd, 2003, 01:41 AM

I dont know (sure!) if some costs changed, but the fastest mean to make vine ogres in doms I (except being Pangea and his natives nature 3 Pan) went like this :

get some druids, from the numerous indep provinces which have them (nature 2)
have them build thistle mace (cost 10 gems) and Ivy Crown (5 gems)
cast ritual of summon vine ogre. Will bring 2 vines ogres for one gem.

Daynarr you seem to imply that in doms II it is better to goes for the big items + Ivy king before conjuring them in masse ? The Treelord staff in Doms I cost 40 gems. I suppose the Ivy King cost either 20 or 40 gems. Thats a bunch of resources comitted before starting to invoke vine ogres?