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October 14th, 2003, 10:11 PM
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Re: Drow theme
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Kristoffer O said- quote: Strange, I didn't know that the germans were dwarves (Ulm is not supposed to be dwarves).
R'lyeh is mostly based on Chtuhlu.
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I mistook ULM for D&D dwarves
what is Chtuhlu?
Is there a theme for african tribes in DOM-II?
What about the Arab nations at 700-1400? they were very powerfull. they can make a very interesting theme. Cthulhu is a godlike alien sleeping in the sunken city of R'lyeh from the writings of H.P. Lovecraft, a noted horror writer active in the nineteen twenties and thirties. He is hugely influential and there are Lovecraft references spread out in various movies and computer games. If you havent read anything I suggest you try one, his language is a bit convulted and his characters are two dimensional but many of thee stories are enjoyable reads anyway. My favourites by him are: "The rats in the walls" and "The mountains of madness". The illithids in dominions are an amalgamation of the AD&D mindflayers and Lovecrafts mythology, the Lovecraftian flavour of Rlyeh will be more pronounced in dom 2.
The new nation Machacka is pseudo African.
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October 14th, 2003, 10:19 PM
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Re: Drow theme
Mainly each nation is based (roughly) on the culture/mythology of where it's placed on the old world map I think. With some exceptions...mainly the aquatics, ermor, and caelum. Also I'm not certain of where abysia comes from either. I think caelum was just because adding flying races is fun for the variety. Nothing quite like extreme mobility but weak fighting power.
Although dom 1 caelum mages were abusive enough to fight for their armies...
But drow as such would seem out of place in dominions...maybe somebody will make an d&d mod or something...machaka would make a good drow base for that because they already have the spider thing down. 
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October 14th, 2003, 10:27 PM
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Re: Drow theme
Also, the nation of Man is not based on "Avalon" myth. The term "Avalon" comes from the Arthurian myth cycle(s) and is a bastardization of a Gaelic term for "Isle of the Apples."
Man is based on Celtic, primarily Irish, mythology with a side-shot of Arthurian influence. That is very different from pure Arthurian for, although Arthurian legend was extremely influenced by the Celtic matter, the Christian and Norman French influences mutated it into something wholly its own. Both are worthy of respect as individual mythos, despite their simularities, and while I think it is fine to fuse them in the nation of Man, I also think it is important to know the differences between the two.
Did I mention I'm alarmingly prone to start talking about Celtic myth? 
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October 15th, 2003, 01:34 AM
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Re: Drow theme
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Also, the nation of Man is not based on "Avalon" myth. The term "Avalon" comes from the Arthurian myth cycle(s) and is a bastardization of a Gaelic term for "Isle of the Apples."
Man is based on Celtic, primarily Irish, mythology with a side-shot of Arthurian influence. That is very different from pure Arthurian for, although Arthurian legend was extremely influenced by the Celtic matter, the Christian and Norman French influences mutated it into something wholly its own. Both are worthy of respect as individual mythos, despite their simularities, and while I think it is fine to fuse them in the nation of Man, I also think it is important to know the differences between the two.
Did I mention I'm alarmingly prone to start talking about Celtic myth?
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October 15th, 2003, 04:14 AM
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Re: Drow theme
Ermor's your regular "living dead" nightmare nation, probably heavily influenced by AD&D which in turn drew from a variety pack. Mummies were popularized from Egyptian-themed horror, banshees stem from the Celtic 'ban sidhe', ghosts and walking dead probably are multicultural.
Abysia seems to be a "hell"-themed demon-worshipping setup. The winged, pitchforked demon's associated most with Christian fire-and-brimstone imagery; blood sacrifice would be a common theme among accusations relating to demon-worship.
Oh, and Cthulhu -- might also want to read the "Call of Cthulhu" story, 'natch. And I wonder if we'll get shoggoths, hmm. Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li! *shudder*
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October 15th, 2003, 05:28 AM
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Re: Drow theme
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What about the Arab nations at 700-1400? they were very powerfull. they can make a very interesting theme.
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Middle Eastern nations, Steppe nomads, and Indian nations are the most obvious analogies missing IMHO. Arcoscephale seems to be modeled on the post Alexander Succesor States, which is close, but it would be cool to have something Persian, Gupta, Timurid, Hun, or Mongol.
Then again, most of these guys relied on tactics which just don't work in Dom 1...
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Re: Drow theme
BTW, Atlantis is based on Ctulhu mythos also:
We have a Dagon pretender and atlantians resemble a mix of human, frog and fish.
We have a "Barbarian Kings" theme for T'ien C'hi, so we already have Mongols, but i would like to see Midle Eastern and Arab Nations.
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