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Old October 15th, 2003, 05:28 AM

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What about the Arab nations at 700-1400? they were very powerfull. they can make a very interesting theme.
Middle Eastern nations, Steppe nomads, and Indian nations are the most obvious analogies missing IMHO. Arcoscephale seems to be modeled on the post Alexander Succesor States, which is close, but it would be cool to have something Persian, Gupta, Timurid, Hun, or Mongol.

Then again, most of these guys relied on tactics which just don't work in Dom 1...
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Old October 15th, 2003, 07:19 AM
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BTW, Atlantis is based on Ctulhu mythos also:
We have a Dagon pretender and atlantians resemble a mix of human, frog and fish.

We have a "Barbarian Kings" theme for T'ien C'hi, so we already have Mongols, but i would like to see Midle Eastern and Arab Nations.
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Old October 15th, 2003, 07:31 AM
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Middle-eastern nations can have very strong religion, prefer hot climate. Their cavalry are camel riders, use genies, rocs (giant bird) etc
elements from middle myth and folklore.

There was also a very interesting colture in Israel about 3500 years ago. A nation that worshiped "Beal Zebub" (master of flies in hebrew) and "Ashtoret" (they sacrificed children to this godess). They were called "Phlishtim". If I recall correctly they are even mentioned in the bible.
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Pardon me, but what are we talking about?
German tribes had some dumbass barbarians in the early ages, they were owned bigtime by the various other barbarians like the Huns. .
I doubt that germany ever had heavy infantry in the medieval ages at all. [Holy Roman Empire was not Germany at all..][/QB]
you cant even spell Maelstrom correctly, so it is no wonder you are so void of knowledge.

Teutonic Knight
Member of a German Christian military order, the Knights of the Teutonic Order, founded in 1190 by Hermann of Salza in Palestine. They crusaded against the pagan Prussians and Lithuanians from 1228 and controlled Prussia until the 16th century. Their capital was Marienburg (now Malbork, Poland).
The Teutonic Knights were originally members of the German aristocracy who founded an order of hospitallers in Acre 1190 and became a military order in 1198. They wore white robes with black crosses. They were based in Palestine until 1268 when they were expelled by the Mamelukes (rulers of Egypt), after which they concentrated on taking Roman Catholicism into Eastern Europe under the control of the pope. They were prevented from expanding into Russia by Alexander Nevski at the battle of Lake Peipus in 1243, but they ruthlessly colonized Prussia in 122683. By the 15th century, pressure from neighbouring powers and the decline of the crusader ideal led to their containment within eastern Prussia. Their influence ended in 1525 when their grand master Albert of Brandenburg was converted to Lutheranism and declared Prussia to be a secular duchy.

As for the supposed weakness of germanic tribes, just type Arausio or Teutobourg in a search engine. You will understand why Germania Magna was never occupied by Rome.

edit : just in case... Arausio is in France, but the defeat was inflicted by german people.

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[you cant even spell Maelstrom correctly, so it is no wonder you are so void of knowledge.
Haha, poor fella you have no idea, that what 'Maelstorm' is, right? You shouldn't post crap, when you know nothing.

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Member of a German Christian military order, the Knights of the Teutonic Order, founded in 1190 by Hermann of Salza in Palestine. They crusaded against the pagan Prussians and Lithuanians from 1228 and controlled Prussia until the 16th century. Their capital was Marienburg (now Malbork, Poland).
The Teutonic Knights were originally members of the German aristocracy who founded an order of hospitallers in Acre 1190 and became a military order in 1198. They wore white robes with black crosses. They were based in Palestine until 1268 when they were expelled by the Mamelukes (rulers of Egypt), after which they concentrated on taking Roman Catholicism into Eastern Europe under the control of the pope. They were prevented from expanding into Russia by Alexander Nevski at the battle of Lake Peipus in 1243, but they ruthlessly colonized Prussia in 122683. By the 15th century, pressure from neighbouring powers and the decline of the crusader ideal led to their containment within eastern Prussia. Their influence ended in 1525 when their grand master Albert of Brandenburg was converted to Lutheranism and declared Prussia to be a secular duchy.

As for the supposed weakness of germanic tribes, just type Arausio or Teutobourg in a search engine. You will understand why Germania Magna was never occupied by Rome.

edit : just in case... Arausio is in France, but the defeat was inflicted by german people.
The teutonic knights...Eh lol, their 'empire' was weak compared to the other European powers, also their military was weak as well.

As for the germanic tribes....

"..During the third and fourth centuries, there were large migrations of land-hungry Germans southward and westward onto the Rhine-Danube Frontier..

..Attila, King and the mighty warlord of the Huns. Succeeding in 433 to the kingship of Scythian hordes disorganized and enfeebled by internal discords, Attila soon made of his subjects a compact and formidable people, the terror of Europe and Asia. An unsuccessful campaign in Persia was followed in 441 by an invasion of the Eastern Roman Empire, the success of which emboldened Attila to invade the West. He passed unhindered through Austria and Germany, across the Rhine into Gaul, plundering and devastating all in his path with a ferocity unparalleled in the records of barbarian invasions and compelling those he overcame to augment his mighty army..."

If you know history, you should know, that all germanic tribes were the slaves of the Huns, just for example. The Huns didnt massacred them all, because they were using the germans as slave soldiers in their armies.
Is this a glorious past you say? Ehehe...
{Many Germans fled to the west}

"..The Huns not only slaughtered their enemies, but forced the ones allowed to live to serve in their armies. As a result after pillaging the European domains of the Eastern Empire and extracting an increased subsidy, Attila turned west, in p;art because of the powerful defensive walls of Constantinople.."

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Okay guys keep it on the subject, don't make this personal.

I have seen a few personal shots recently by a few posters, please refrain from attacking each other personally. I wouldn't want to have to pull out my big moderation stick .

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Okay guys keep it on the subject, don't make this personal.

I have seen a few personal shots recently by a few posters, please refrain from attacking each other personally. I wouldn't want to have to pull out my big moderation stick .

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Hey, nothing personal, just a little history lesson.
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