Dom I Strategies which WON'T work in Dom II

Pocus · #1 October 17th, 2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
Until I read the newsGroups and gave them lifelong protection, which makes your assassin virtually unstoppable, except to things with trample. Actually, my fully-loaded, lifelong protected Slayers were conquering provinces all by themselves. In other words, I thought normal assassins were too weak, and assassins with unlimited free summons were way too strong. How does the strength of assassins seem in Dominions II?

lifelong protection is one of the item which must be nerfed, IMHO.

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P.S. Is Vengence of the Dead still bugged to count undead as kills, so that it doubles effectiveness each time it is cast on a commander?

this is not a bug, this is a 'work as designed feature'

Nagot Gick Fel · #2 October 17th, 2003, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
lifelong protection is one of the item which must be nerfed, IMHO.

Simple nerf: just increase the probability for Horror attack.

Pocus · #3 October 17th, 2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
lifelong protection is one of the item which must be nerfed, IMHO.

Simple nerf: just increase the probability for Horror attack.

instead of an endless stream of imps, which enable an assassin to take out all but the nastiest commanders, I would have prefered something like 5 rounds of imps and then no more. Sufficient IMHO compared to the power of the item.

Nagot Gick Fel · #4 October 17th, 2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
lifelong protection is one of the item which must be nerfed, IMHO.

Simple nerf: just increase the probability for Horror attack.
instead of an endless stream of imps, which enable an assassin to take out all but the nastiest commanders, I would have prefered something like 5 rounds of imps and then no more. Sufficient IMHO compared to the power of the item.

Or 1 imp/round instead of 2 (my preference). Or a swarm of 10-20 imps when the battle starts (similar to the Wraith Crown).

Aristoteles · #5 October 18th, 2003, 01:53 AM

Lifelong protection must be nerfed, OR

as we all know, the disabling spell ability in the mod tools is a must have. If we will be able to disable spells, these discussions will be pointless. We can disable the unbalanced/disliked spells by our own, and we wont have to whine, that 'plz fix this, fix that'. IW is already flooded with work.

Pocus · #6 October 17th, 2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Aristoteles:
Lifelong protection must be nerfed, OR

as we all know, the disabling spell ability in the mod tools is a must have. If we will be able to disable spells, these discussions will be pointless. We can disable the unbalanced/disliked spells by our own, and we wont have to whine, that 'plz fix this, fix that'. IW is already flooded with work.

i feel that we are reashing again and again the same things :

1. it is always better to have a game balanced by the devs, they know all the intricacies and implications incurred by a changes, it is their game after all.
2. it solves the problem of players which dont have time to browse all the mods to asserts which ones balances things the way they want. Also, not all players are aware enough of the game subttle mechanisms to make the best appraisal about a given issue.
3. it solves the problem of MP games where you have to decide democratically which one to use.

ywl · #7 October 17th, 2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Nerfix:

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"Curse of the Deads", a spell to curse a commander with a large body-count remotely.

"Mark of Kurgi", a spell to horror-mark a mass murderer from a distance - for later Horror attack.

"Smite of Justice", a thunderbolt to strike whoever kill too many.

"Scythe of Conscience", renders whoever kill too many feeblemind ?

Just some random thoughts.

I kinda like them, but they are commander bLasting spells, and "Assasination" was one of the ten whammies... Curse of Death and Mark of Kurgi are good, but Smite of Justice and Scythe of Conscience are commander bLasting spells for sure.

They're for targeting mass murderers.

Magic save can always be allowed. I was just being light in detail.