what is your milleage

[DominionsFan]

Oh I got it. Yup 9 indy str for MP sounds a little too much, however if you don't like to expand fast, it can be fun.
[I prefer to play SP anyways.]

[MStavros]

Originally posted by apoger:
>I feel at Last somehow at ease with Abysia now, and get something like 1100 gold & 18 provinces at turn 20 (Eye map, indep at 4, 6 impossible AI, all other settings unchanged).

I ran a game to see how well I'd do using the same settings.

I used a red dragon (fire 2, earth 8), order3, prod 3, heat 3, death 3, luck 1, drain 3.

Totally ordrinary game, some ups, some downs. I lost an important army by surprise when Arco showed up with an unexpected army that had 8 elephants, 20 HC, and about 100 assorted junk.

On turn 20: 36 provinces, income 1602.

If I had a bit of luck or had played a shard smarter I probably could have gotten another 20% out of things.

Indeed nice. I had almost the same results.

I met with an AI army in that game, and it had more than 300 units. [Man - Impossible.] As usual, mostly cheap units, but still that was an impressive army.

[PDF]

Originally posted by DominionsFAN:
Oh I got it. Yup 9 indy str for MP sounds a little too much, however if you don't like to expand fast, it can be fun.
[I prefer to play SP anyways.]

Well, I like strong indeps, so in Dom2 I play Indie 8-9 plus Rich world

[Pocus]

Just saw poor Mictlan having his castle stormed by Ulm (680 units). The Ulmish army was composed of woodmen, milicia, light infantries, and a core of 50 Ulm national units.

Something ought really to be done to correct this, it is starting to be annoying. I want to fight Ulm, not a horde of half washed woodmen!


correction, the battle ended after 10 mn (real time), with the routing of Ulm. Roughly 75 units killed by his own archers, then the remainded failed to hit the Mictlan Stone God (with Mist form), and as they starved, everybody fled. Ulm fielded in fact only a single mage, a single Commander of Ulm, and a 30 guardians, the rest being a useless rabble.
Not very optimized

[ November 01, 2003, 20:27: Message edited by: Pocus ]

[Aristoteles]

Originally posted by Pocus:
Just saw poor Mictlan having his castle stormed by Ulm (680 units). The Ulmish army was composed of woodmen, milicia, light infantries, and a core of 50 Ulm national units.

Something ought really to be done to correct this, it is starting to be annoying. I want to fight Ulm, not a horde of half washed woodmen!


correction, the battle ended after 10 mn (real time), with the routing of Ulm. Roughly 75 units killed by his own archers, then the remainded failed to hit the Mictlan Stone God (with Mist form), and as they starved, everybody fled. Ulm fielded in fact only a single mage, a single Commander of Ulm, and a 30 guardians, the rest being a useless rabble.
Not very optimized

Sad....This AI needs some huge update.

Pocus you were with Mictlan? Or how did you seen that battle?

[ November 01, 2003, 21:33: Message edited by: Aristoteles ]

[PvK]

You guys are too good. On turn 20, I had maybe 370 gold income and about a dozen provinces, and was about to get steamrollered by Marignon. No wonder you guys think the AI is lame.

PvK

[apoger]

PvK, like many newer players you haven't gotten the hang of some of the games efficiencies. Once you are on track things get much easier.

Try making a super combatant pretender (everyone else will in such a magic rich enviornment).

For a simple way to learn try;

A Manticore
astral - 6
earth - 1

Research alteration - 3, enchantment - 3

Place the Manticore in the rear.
Orders to cast: Body Ethereal, Astral Shield, Ironskin, Personal Luck, Astral Weapon.
Then attack rearmost.

Send it in alone, you don't want to rout when your army loses a morale check.

Get it rings that protect versus elements if you are attacking a cold or heat nation. Get a ring of tamed lightning if attacking an air nation.

This simple configuration will cut through 95% of conventional armies like a hot knife through butter. Use it to gobble up provinces and abuse the computer AI.

It's not invincible. But will handle a whole lot of trouble.

This will put you on the path towards understanding the potency of super combatants.