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November 2nd, 2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: This has to be a first!
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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Arent the Spartans supposed to have also been a gay legion? Saw something about that on the learning channel.
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Not exactly - I mean in Greek culture generally back then homosexuality, or rather a form of bisexuality, was pretty standard - just read some of Plato's dialogues (there's references all over the place). The only difference was that in general it was an older/middle-aged guy with younger boys, or at least youths.
I don't remember the details on Sparta in particular, but I don't think they differed that much from the Greek norm in this respect. They certainly weren't distinct in this regard from other Greek city-states.
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November 2nd, 2003, 12:21 AM
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Re: This has to be a first!
Spartan youths were frequently raised and trained by older warriors, and part of the training, it's generally accepted, included homosexual relations. Though, they were more bisexual rather than gay - they had wives and children, too.
Dominions isn't the first computer game to have Spartans, although AFAIK it might be the first to mention it, though I doubt it - there are many games out there.
As for the first to have blood magic and crossbreed monsters... nah. I remember a game back about 1989 that had a "sacrifice virgin" command... another that had male prostitution as a way to make money for your hero... there are quite a few games that include necromancy, vampirism, abominable monsters, and so on. Spiderweb Software has its "Geneforge" series of games, which center around making mutant monsters.
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November 2nd, 2003, 12:29 AM
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Re: This has to be a first!
Why does a "Heart Companion" have to be homosexual? They share the same dream in the heart for the same thing and are companions in this regard.
The lamda could have its origin from the island of Lesbos, where a school for girl/women was seated. It’s said that they were mostly homosexual, therefore the word “lesbian”.
Just my 0.02€.
[ November 01, 2003, 22:29: Message edited by: Mephisto ]
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November 3rd, 2003, 02:14 AM
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Re: This has to be a first!
Ya, just make sure you have them travel with Arco priestesses!
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