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February 15th, 2004, 07:39 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
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Wow, that's an incredibly nice ability, especially for obsessive people like me that blow their cash on defense=) I know I shouldn't, but it's always so tempting... just 1 more! =)
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LOL, in my first few SP games when I am learning the rope with the Desert Eye scenario, I regularly increase PD to at least 30 for all my provinces, 50+ for provinces with castles, and up to 100 in strategic provinces & coastal provinces in late games (to keep the annoying Rlyeh in water until I can build a underwater army to wipe them out). And yes, I deliberately keep at least one AI alive so I can test all the spells, forged items, and other things. So I do have to deal with their incessant attempt to gain lands, rather than just wipe them out which could be done easily enough. So I invest in PD with all those $ sitting in my treasury for fun at the very least.
It is funny to get the message of Rlyeh attacking my coastal provinces, only to be driven back by PD. In the rare occasions where they do gain a foothold, they usually lose too many troops that they can't advance any more in the immediate future and can easily be mopped out by my army provided I can reach them before reinforcement (which is almost always the case. Or I can use "Call of Wind" if they are that depleted)
Anyway, now when I play I don't go for ridiculous PDs (is there even a limit? I know you can go 100+, never bothered to find the limit), rather than quickly mop out the AIs, but it was fun nonetheless. Seeing an Arco army of ~20 Elephants & ~100 other troops driven back my Ulmish or Pythium 100PD gives me a good laugh. ^_^ (and just before anyone say it, yes, the Pythium PD is not so great...)
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February 15th, 2004, 07:57 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
The Tien Chi conscription ability is pretty much meaningless, since it works so rarely that you can't really build around it as a strategy. If the increase were far more noticeable, like a 30% chance of a +1 increase per order scale, this would actually become rather neat, and probably make them a good deal more attractive: At the moment, they feel like one of the weaker nations.
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February 15th, 2004, 08:07 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
i dont undertstand what it is supposed to do either.
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February 15th, 2004, 08:11 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
damn annoying forum O_o should read top to bottom and not go backwards.
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February 15th, 2004, 08:43 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
The Tien Chi conscription ability is pretty much meaningless, since it works so rarely that you can't really build around it as a strategy. If the increase were far more noticeable, like a 30% chance of a +1 increase per order scale, this would actually become rather neat, and probably make them a good deal more attractive:
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Not just a good deal, but incredibly more attractive. You could expect your province defense to increase every single turn in every province with order 3. That's a huge income boost.
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February 15th, 2004, 09:38 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
Gateway: Limit on province defense is 125. Found that out in a game with Caelum where I was just messing around with late game spells and had ~8k gold income per turn post upkeep.
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February 15th, 2004, 10:38 PM
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Re: Tien Chi Conscription
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Not just a good deal, but incredibly more attractive. You could expect your province defense to increase every single turn in every province with order 3. That's a huge income boost.
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That's sort of what I was getting at. As it stands, the current conscription, even with order-3, increases PD so rarely and weakly that it may as well be considered a random event rather than a national feature! Tien Chi's core national units are pretty weak as it stands, making the provincial defense conscription feature a more prominent part of the nation couldn't hurt at all.
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