Blessing Effects and National/Theme Starting Spells

apoger · #1 November 22nd, 2003, 11:41 PM

The air-2 mages would be able to cast it with an air gem. I don't think it's worth it.

Only the air-2 mages that got a lucky air pick from the randoms would get to use the free research. That's pretty weak. I must suspect that the theme had air-3 mages at one time, but was changed. The pre-research should have been changed also.

Kristoffer O · #2 November 23rd, 2003, 12:47 AM

No, they didn't have 3-air mages, but they had Phantasmal Warriors. They should perhaps have both spells. On the other hand, the theme is not a weak one in my opinion.

apoger · #3 November 23rd, 2003, 12:57 AM

>No, they didn't have 3-air mages, but they had Phantasmal Warriors.

That makes sense.

>They should perhaps have both spells. On the other hand, the theme is not a weak one in my opinion.

I agree. It's a strong theme. I'd say they should get Phantasmal Warriors only. It's weak, but useable.

Pocus · #4 December 9th, 2003, 10:38 PM

if Mictlan could get a starting level 1 blood spell it would be better IMO.

#5 December 11th, 2003, 10:41 AM

Alright; just another question here in terms of "why this?"

Why do all T'ien Ch'i have Flight? There is no national mage that can cast it unless you get a lucky pick or useless(S&A have flying Celestial Masters).

The only hero that can use it is the Master of the Iron Crutch. Perhaps if Flight was a Commander only Ritual spell that give permaflight or some spell to replace it.

Maybe I just don't see the usefulness of that particular spell being a "initial spell". Even thematic.

LordArioch · #6 December 11th, 2003, 08:32 PM

As another note, I think standard theme would get considerably stronger if it could cast any of its national spells without needing a 250 gold celestial master with a random pick in air or earth. Unless your pretender can summon them its going to be awhile before you see any celestial beings.

Saber Cherry · #7 December 11th, 2003, 08:53 PM

Yes... TC national spells are weak. I've never seen much point in casting flight in the first place; it's just another thing to script that takes the place of a useful spell. Plus nobody can cast it. If CM's had 2 air so they could actually cast celestial warriors... or (even better) 2 random so that 1 in 4 instead of 1 in 8 could cast it... it might be a quite useful summon=)

Why do they get 2 water, 1 air (and the Master of the Way 1 water, 0 air) when it seems to be such an air-focussed nation?