Racial Specific Pretenders (Limitations)

Saber Cherry · #1 December 2nd, 2003, 07:22 AM

Jotun's Skratti archmage is pretty decent for B. That multi-arm thing is a pretty good class C SC for Arco and the other race that gets it...

And the ***** queen is pretty good for class B, too...

#2 December 2nd, 2003, 07:38 AM

***** Queen is like a slightly improved Arch-Mage. Which isn't saying alot.

I'd always take a ***** Queen over an Archmage if I had the option, though I don't know if I'd take the ***** Queen as Man, but maybe as Vanheim.

40 Cost, 1 Dominion, 0 Magic Picks, 10 Pick per new.

Decent stats and calls 'wolves' to battle with her.

The Arco and 3 other Races that are allowed the Natarajah are not what I'm talking about

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Skratti is like a big Arch-mage. 50 Cost, 1 Dominion, 0 Magic Picks, 10 Pick per new.

Maybe what I'm missing is the use of the "Arch-mage" type of Pretenders. Does everyone use them from time to time?

I find their low Domininon unattractive and the lowered stats (especially HP) a deterant.

Saber Cherry · #3 December 2nd, 2003, 07:54 AM

Yes, I find them very useful. Only a few nations need high dominion, as far as I can tell, so I always use an archmage type unless I'm using an SC or having fun with an immortal... but the ghost king is very fun, as an immortal ethereal archmage-type (20 per path) with high dominion.

I find the immobile pretenders to be fairly useless. If they were cheaper, perhaps, or had cheaper paths, or... who knows, maybe I'd never use one no matter what=) I think they need special advantages - the fountain of blood has special advantages, but the others need them too... like spewing out gems, or functioning as some sort of magic site, or something...

[ December 02, 2003, 05:56: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

Jasper · #4 December 2nd, 2003, 08:02 AM

The Ghost King isn't immortal... perhaps you're thinking of the Vampire Queen?

Nerfix · #5 December 2nd, 2003, 08:05 AM

I have found myself using immobiles lately. The Void Lurker of R'lyeh is about the best pretender they can get, and i still think that scales are rather important. He gets two attacks, is ethereal and has a poison cloud effect(iirc) and costs hefty 0 points.

But i do find it srange that Oracles can't scry...

[ December 02, 2003, 06:06: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Saber Cherry · #6 December 2nd, 2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jasper:
The Ghost King isn't immortal... perhaps you're thinking of the Vampire Queen?

Oh, whoops! I guess I was lucky=) I was being so careful to keep him in his dominion, too=)

Saber Cherry · #7 December 2nd, 2003, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
I have found myself using immobiles lately. The Void Lurker of R'lyeh is about the best pretender they can get, and i still think that scales are rather important. He gets two attacks, is ethereal and has a poison cloud effect(iirc) and costs hefty 0 points.

But i do find it srange that Oracles can't scry...

Their archmage is also zero points, but can be used to sitesearch underwater... or with an amulet of fish, on land, too. Not a bad deal! The disadvantages are weak astral and low HP (assassination, seeking arrow).

But who cares how many attacks an immobile pretender gets? I really don't see that as ever being important.