Hall of fame bonuses?

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
So, to clarify all this...

If you have a water-9 pretender, wish for a nataraja, give it 4 swords of quickness, a horned helmet, boots of quickness, 2 stone birds, and a shroud of the battle saint... and it gets heroic quickness up to, say, 151%...

It should get a basic 8 sword attacks, 1 gore, and 8 bird attacks, for 17 attacks. The blessing combines with heroic quickness to give +201%, or quad actions in the first round (and triple subsequently). Magical quickness should double this, with an end result of:

(8+1+8)*4*2 = 136 attacks in the first round, and 102 attacks for the next 99 rounds. Not bad! Reinvigoration might be nice, though. On second thought, it might be best to reincarnate him as an undead so he doesn't have fatigue problems.

Edit: Oops, I think that was wrong - all quicknesses are added, not multiplied. Thus, the result is would be:

(8+1+8)*(4+1) = 85 attacks in the first round, and 68 attacks for the next 99 rounds. Not so special after all

OK! What you alll wanted to know...

I tested it. Magic and Heroic quicknessess ARE multiplied, not added!

I had Emmitu the Ermorian Hero (a complete badass in his own right). He got Heroic Quickness, and I gave him Jade Armor, which grants magical quickness. Needless to say... on turn 1, he gave himself unholy power and ran across the field to annihilate half the enemy army in melee, and on turn 2, he annihilated the rest of the army in melee (these were small, indy 3 armies).

Heroic Quickness: +139%
Base action points: 30
Action Points unequipped: 71
Action Points with Jade Armor: 142

So, undead heroes can be very very nice=)

FYI, he is wearing a Sword of Quickness, Sickle Whose Crop is Pain, Amon Hotep, Champion's Skull, and Lucky Pendant. And I made him prophet. Final stats (before casting Unholy Power on himself, which makes him much faster):

HP 94
Prot 30
Mrl 30
Mrst 27
Enc 0
Str: 25
Att: 28
Def: 37
Pre: 17

Blessed, Poor Amphibian, Fear 10, Awe 4, Fire Resist 50, Cold Resist 100, Poison Resist 100, Undead, Immortal, Chill, Ethereal, Berserker 1, Air Shield 20, 4 exp. stars.

22 attacks per turn, average, including the horse's hoof=)

[Taqwus]

Saber Cherry --
Hm. That would have been even more grotesque with Water 9 on the Pretender, heh. But over 100 AP is plenty already, I think...

[Kjeld]

I had an Heroic Skratti with improved strength, he had somehting like 70 or 80ish strength iirc.
Wearing a soul contract, he just one shotted attracted horrors to death with his staff

[PvK]

I think the mis-matched heroic abilities are good. It is interesting, creates characters with unique combinations of abilities, and means that the hall of fame is not guaranteed to create someone super-good in their usual role. That's all good in my book.

Heroic attack skill on a spellcaster? That's interesting, and not useless. Some spells require the caster to touch the target, and casters do get into hand-to-hand combat (a high-risk cause of death). One of my more memorable and interesting characters is Henrik the priest who won the arena deathmatch championship, and now is a magic-trident-wielding melee machine who happens to be a priest.

PvK

[freykin]

You missed one of the heroic abilities, which I've only seen show up once so far

I don't remember it's exact name, but it ramps up your research speed. Quetzalcoatl got it for me with Mictlan, and by the time he fell out of the hall of fame, his research speed was up to 37!

Needless to say, that's one of my favorite heroic abilities

It's like Amazing Researcher or something. It's a great ability but seems to be very very rare, rarer than Quickness.