Order +3 Luck -3 : still a no-brainer

Nagot Gick Fel · #1 January 24th, 2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Leadman:
I've had mixed results with it.

Same here, but on the whole the advantages still outweight the disadvantages by a good margin.

OTOH Luck+3 without Order is still a good recipe for catastrophic outcomes. Plagues events that kill 50+% of your capital's pop shouldn't occur with Luck+3. And even then, they should be restricted to dominions of Death. It's particularly disheartening to see your capital shrink from 30k to 14k in turn 10 with Luck+3 and Growth+1 - it just happened to me. In MP that would be a real gamebreaker.

[ January 24, 2004, 15:39: Message edited by: Nagot Gick Fel ]

Teraswaerto · #2 January 24th, 2004, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

OTOH Luck+3 without Order is still a good recipe for catastrophic outcomes. Plagues events that kill 50+% of your capital's pop shouldn't occur with Luck+3. And even then, they should be restricted to dominions of Death.

Death scale hardly needs to be made less desirable. Limited to misfortune would be far better.

Pocus · #3 January 24th, 2004, 06:09 PM

on the other hand I tried a order 0 luck +3. I must have some chance, because contrary to Leadman, I didnt get any bad events. On the other hand I received one time 200 gp and perhaps 6 time some gems (in 30 turns, and with 10 provinces).

Dont seem to warrant the cost, by far. I mean getting something like 30 to 40 gems spread on 6 fields is nice, but is not sufficient.

[ January 24, 2004, 16:10: Message edited by: Pocus ]

HJ · #4 January 24th, 2004, 06:44 PM

Well, in my current game I had 4 knight attacks and 2 barbarian attacks in the first 25 turns, so I wouldn't know....

Jasper · #5 January 24th, 2004, 07:31 PM

I'm not sure yet, but I'm leaning towards Order 3 + Misfortune 2, or at least Misfortune 1. The power of a given factions heroes influences this as well.

Anyway, I defintely agree that Order/Turmoil is too powerfull of an effect. I'm not sure what to think about Luck/Misfortune, as it's possible they would be ok if one didn't always take O+3.

Of course, as long as Order effects event frequency, Misfortune will always go with Order, and Luck with Turmoil...

Teraswaerto · #6 January 24th, 2004, 08:18 PM

In one game with luck 3 I got 1500 gold, 600 (or was it 500, not sure) gold, and a Robe of the Magi all within the first 20 turns. If only it had been MP...

[ January 24, 2004, 18:18: Message edited by: Teraswaerto ]

Pocus · #7 January 24th, 2004, 08:50 PM

in all my tests I never had more than 200 gp from luck, and generally I only got handful of gems. So the relative un-attractivness of the scale.