Is Vanheim generally considered overpowered? Just asking, I dont claim to know.

PvK · #1 January 26th, 2004, 10:37 PM

Yep - fodder time. Let the Vans massacre 100 units - but let them be cheapos - undead, provincial defense, tribals, militia, etc. Not expensive Hypaspists and elephants. Try to get them to engage a fresh unit of competent troops only after they're tired out from killing the cannon fodder. May be difficult to choreograph. Lots of cheap archers are a good idea too, though they could also end up killing your cannon fodder if you try to coordinate tactics.

PvK

Saber Cherry · #2 January 26th, 2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Osium:
My nataraja was self buffing quickness ethereal body and ironskin, then attacking rear. She had chainmail of displacement and some flying boots I was able to pickup as well as the luck pendant. I was trying to scrounge for a regen or reinvig item, I just couldnt come up with one. I thought the chainmail sounded cool, but im not exactly sure what it did if anything ;p

Nothing. I thought it gave mirror image, but actually it just gives a defense bonus, while most armor gives a defense penalty. IMO it should give mirror image.

Pocus · #3 January 26th, 2004, 10:58 PM

As Arco you have prime access to - somehow - precise combat spells (star fire, mind burn, soul slay). A mystic cost 3 times a Valks, but can cast quite a lot of these spells anyway.

You can also buff the bodyguards around your mage by etheralizing them with the same mystics.

Nagot Gick Fel · #4 January 27th, 2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Osium:
My nataraja was self buffing quickness ethereal body and ironskin, then attacking rear. She had chainmail of displacement...

It's amazing how many people think of the Nataraja as a female being. I guess it's because hindu art often represents the human body in a manner that seems effeminate to western eyes.

Anyway "raja" is the sanskrit title for "lord", and Nataraja is just an avatar of Shiva, who is known to be a male deity.

Master Shake · #5 January 27th, 2004, 07:39 PM

40 Valkyries? That's a huge wad of gold. Just play Abysia, make a couple Soul Contracts, and let the Devils pile up. By the time he has been able to buy 40 Valkyries, you'll have twice that number of Devils. I'll take a Devil over a Valkyie any day.

Pocus · #6 January 27th, 2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Master Shake:
40 Valkyries? That's a huge wad of gold. Just play Abysia, make a couple Soul Contracts, and let the Devils pile up. By the time he has been able to buy 40 Valkyries, you'll have twice that number of Devils. I'll take a Devil over a Valkyie any day.

2400 (or so) gold spent on a side, and on the other construction 6 researched, one dwarven hammer, 120 slaves, plus surely one or two +1 blood items on the other side. Are you not overstating a bit your case?

neurosis#5 · #7 January 27th, 2004, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

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Originally posted by Osium:
My nataraja was self buffing quickness ethereal body and ironskin, then attacking rear. She had chainmail of displacement...

It's amazing how many people think of the Nataraja as a female being. I guess it's because hindu art often represents the human body in a manner that seems effeminate to western eyes.

Anyway "raja" is the sanskrit title for "lord", and Nataraja is just an avatar of Shiva, who is known to be a male deity.

The issue isn't helped by games like Final Fantasy (multiple Versions)where Shiva has always been a female summon. That made me laugh when I first saw "him" step out of a block of ice as a bikini-clad ice queen.