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February 26th, 2004, 07:58 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
Werewolf (Call of the Wild) seems to be missing stats.
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February 26th, 2004, 08:00 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
It's up now.
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February 26th, 2004, 09:04 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
I vote for the separate summons chart.
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February 26th, 2004, 09:34 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
Hah, Sorry about that Phil. I thought I put them in  Damnation. Comes from looking at it too much can't really see between the lines as it were
Thanks Sindai. Sunray reminded me of that previously, and I thought I changed it, but obviously not
Edit: And yes, I know the Crossbreeds don't have an Upkeep cost, because of the variety of the breeds and the way upkeep works, I have to gather up certain #'s of them and get them killed off in order to try to figure out the exact #'s. So I left that one alone until the next Version. But do Note, they do have some upkeep, or at least some parts of them do.
[ February 26, 2004, 19:41: Message edited by: Zen ]
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February 26th, 2004, 10:36 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
I'm rather impressed Zen by the amount of work you put into dominions! Congratulations!!
A side remark : the graphical path symbols have a rather low res, thats normal?
I think the fallen angel get some imps by summon allies.
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February 26th, 2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
The graphics are ripped directly from the game and in order to put them on there, they are fairly low res.
Sorry if they are not quite as quality as everyone wants, but it works pretty well on color and b&w printers. If you have better symbols you can send them on over and I'll see what I can do.
The primary reason I work at this, is it is the most common newbie complaint, the documentation. If the documentation is done with me and Bruce Geryk and Sunray, people won't have that reason to not play Dom2 or be as confused.
Edit: Yes the Fallen Angel summons 3 imps a turn. So I'll adjust that. With as many changes I'll probably send out a new Version tommorow.
I'll also be putting National Summons at the end of the guide for specific themes, so yes you'll have your Harliquins, Vampire Counts and Celestials.
[ February 26, 2004, 20:59: Message edited by: Zen ]
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February 27th, 2004, 06:14 PM
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Re: The Summoned Creature Quick Reference
with regard to the Magic Items Quick Ref.:
I compared the 2.6 and the 2.8 Version pdfs and the icons are definitely of a lower resolution in the 2.8 Version. I don't understand this, but it certainly seems to be the case. [this is on-screen at high magnification levels, using the same app to view both]
Also, is the new weapon added in 2.08 [Light Lance] included? I couldn't find it on there, but I may have missed it.
Other than those questions my feedback is entirely positive - great document, looks fantastic and is a very helpful resource (much more so than the manual's section on items).
Also I had an idea for the Summoned Creature Quick Reference, which is something you might have already decided *not* to implement, but I'll suggest it anyway:
I think it would be cool to have a line or two commentary for each summoned creature by a veteran - such as 'vinemen are mediocre, but cheap summons which work well with poisonous creatures/attacks, but their slow summoning rate makes it difficult to get high enough numbers of them to really make a difference.' Especially for new players (or players new to certain magic paths) this might be helpful info to add, since there are just so many summons to choose from.
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