Tartarian factory

[ywl]

Originally posted by geo981010:

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Originally posted by ywl:
Assuming the chance for site is 50% and the number of nature or death gems for each site is 2. For a rough estimation:
30 * 0.5 * 1/8 * 2 ~= 4

1/8 because I assume that there are equal chance for each type of site (not true) and I haven't counted holy or unholy sites. But even if we increase the number to 1/4, it'd still only about 8.

Hmm, I thought a site frequency of 50% meant that
for each of the 4 site slots per province there would be a 50% chance it would be filled? So for 30 provinces you would have:
30 (#provinces) * 4 (slots per land) * .5 (50% sites) * 1/8 (# of paths) * 2 (gems/site) = 16

I am not sure how this is affected by swamp/mountain/etc terrain (they have a higher chance of sites - though how is another Illwinter mystery!).

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You're right. I stand corrected . It might not be that much theoretically after all.

But in my experience, 13 gems of a type is still an large income for non-national magic in the 50% site setting.

But I agree totally it's an exploit. It's only a matter of extent how much it is comparing to other tricks when you get to Conjuration 9.

[Taqwus]

At least in Dom I, if memory serves the way the 'site frequency' deal worked was that there was an X probability of having _one_ site there, and as long as the check said 'yes' another roll with the same probability took place to possibly add another one, up to a maximum of four.

[PDF]

Isn't the whole Tartarian Gate abusing thing just tied to the - not normal IMHO- possibility for Priestesses to heal afflictions on ... Undead beings ?
It would make sense to make healing only possible for *living* things, no undead or construct (maybe it already doesn't work on constructs), no ?

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by PDF:
Isn't the whole Tartarian Gate abusing thing just tied to the - not normal IMHO- possibility for Priestesses to heal afflictions on ... Undead beings ?
It would make sense to make healing only possible for *living* things, no undead or construct (maybe it already doesn't work on constructs), no ?

Cute idea. [Edit: for Priestesses only - or your undead pretender would be in trouble]

[ February 17, 2004, 21:58: Message edited by: Nagot Gick Fel ]

[ywl]

Originally posted by PDF:
Isn't the whole Tartarian Gate abusing thing just tied to the - not normal IMHO- possibility for Priestesses to heal afflictions on ... Undead beings ?
It would make sense to make healing only possible for *living* things, no undead or construct (maybe it already doesn't work on constructs), no ?

Agree. That'll be a fix of the game system which help this issue.

Two possibilities here: (1) Lifeless units only. The power of golem and other constructs will be decreased; (2) Lifeless *and* undead units. Some powerful undeads will also be affected, noticebly Prince of Dead, Wraithlords. But either way, since only Arco have easy access to healing, the effects on other nations will be limited. Prince of Dead will be less attractive as a pretender choice but it's already powerful enougth - no big deal there.

But still, it bugs me to see so many dead gods walking around for summoning . Let's make them unique .

BTW, what is the mythological source of the word Tartarian?

[fahdiz]

Originally posted by ywl:
BTW, what is the mythological source of the word Tartarian?

I believe it's Greek. If I'm not mistaken, Tartarus was the name of one of the parts of Hades...perhaps the area just before the gates of Hades? Guarded by the Cerberus?

[Taqwus]

Regarding Tartarus, Wikipedia is your friend.
(Ooh, Hecatonchires with 50 helmet slots and 100 arm slots? Hm.)