cavalry charges against pikes units

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Aikamun:
His famous words, "Choke up on the bat, son, for more maneuverability." I can see them doing so if their formation has broken up or when fatigued.

If you've ever seen a good medieval re-enactment, or held a 14' pike and then tried to actually do what you suggest, you quickly realize the ludicrousness of the idea. Choke up on a 14' pike, indeed! hah

[Zurai]

Attack rearmost almost never works for me. They always hit the rear of the front formation, ignoring the archers and mages and commanders behind those. This is fliers and cavalry both.

[PDF]

Well, Dom doesn't model neither charges nor formation in a very detailed/realistic way...

The current "charge" is not that bad : Lance is used only on 1st melee turn. However it can't be "countered" by pike formations.
Maybe Pikes could be improved to say Dam 18 w/o Str adjust, AND be usable for say 3 turns, then the pikemen will have to draw their sword ? Historically it wasn't completely like that, what mattered was that the phalanx has to remain orderly, but it could be a compromise ...

And I confirm that even when faced with few enemies (say 50 in 3-4 Groups), in 2.06, cavalry ordered to attack rear usually attack the flank of the enemy FRONT units, and does'nt get to the rear... IIRC it DID it correctly in 2.02

[General Tacticus]

Originally posted by Zurai:
Attack rearmost almost never works for me. They always hit the rear of the front formation, ignoring the archers and mages and commanders behind those. This is fliers and cavalry both.

If they pass close enough to an enemy formation, I find your troops tend to change targets and attack that formation, instead of the rear one they had their sight on They would probably resume their rear attack once they got rid of the one that got on the way (or rather, "near the way"), but by then it doesn't matter anyway...