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February 18th, 2004, 10:34 PM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
UDH-
If you tried to move into an enemy province while an enemy tried to move from that province to where you were, the armies might collide such that one army gets pushed back and they battle at one of the two provinces. The chance of colliding is relative to the size of the two armies, and the smaller army is more likely to get pushed back.
And in my experince, you seem to be more likely to get pushed back in cases when you are sieging like that, but that might be just some random weirdness for me...
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February 18th, 2004, 10:36 PM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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According to the manual, movement between friendly provinces occurs before movement into enemy territory. Could that be it?
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No. The attacker (whomever's Capitol you were besieging) was moving into an enemy province (the one with the capitol but controlled by UDH = "undead dolphin hacker"). UDH was moving *his* army as well into an enemy controlled province. The question is: which movement happens first? I believe (but would like dev/veteran confirmation) that the order is randomly determined.
i.e. bad luck for UDH
[ February 18, 2004, 20:37: Message edited by: pole_shift ]
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February 18th, 2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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No. The attacker (whomever's Capitol you were besieging) was moving into an enemy province (the one with the capitol but controlled by UDH = "undead dolphin hacker"). UDH was moving *his* army as well into an enemy controlled province. The question is: which movement happens first? I believe (but would like dev/veteran confirmation) that the order is randomly determined.
i.e. bad luck for UDH
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The order is random when doing movement phases. And George's answer my be true (though I have never had a smaller Army get 'pushed' around by a large one. Only Large on Large, never Small vs Large). Also there is the question if a Sieged Province is considered under control of the Castle owner or the Sieger for purposes of movement.
[ February 18, 2004, 21:32: Message edited by: Zen ]
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February 18th, 2004, 11:10 PM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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Also there is the question if a Sieged Province is considered under control of the Castle owner or the Sieger for purposes of movement.
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Aye, there's the rub!
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February 19th, 2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
The besieger. For friendly movement etc purposes.
[ February 18, 2004, 22:12: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]
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February 19th, 2004, 12:20 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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The besieger. For friendly movement etc purposes.
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Thanks Kris!
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February 19th, 2004, 01:22 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
I see. So it was just a luck of the draw thing? My army was bigger than the Jotun task force (My 15 compared to their 5), but with such low numbers I figured I wouldn't "bump into" the enemy on my way out... I assumed he was moving into the province with all his forces, and wanted to keep harassing him by skirting away into more of his territory, but I guess the ol' Stars weren't in my favor...
Well crapola. My rainbow pretender is now completely worthless, right? Pretenders lose all their magic when they're Called back, yes?
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