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February 19th, 2004, 03:23 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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Does that mean in a case when an army is moving off a sieged castle while the same enemy is moving back on to it, the sieging force always gets pushed back? If friendly movement is before enemy movement and the castle counts as the sieged armies force, then I am thinking it follows that the sieged team is moved in before the siegers can move out...? (Sorry if this is beating a dead horse, but this point could mean a lot someday!)
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Geo: Could you rephrase that?
Zen Storm castle takes effect after normal province movement both friendly and enemy. So if the player holding the castle move in an outside force that attacks the besieger the two forces (plus any units inside breaking siege) clash outside the castle in the ordinary combat phase, after that any remaining forces of the besieger that have the order storm castle have a separate combat phase after the other combats in that turn (assasination, farsummon or ordinary move province).
[ February 19, 2004, 01:28: Message edited by: johan osterman ]
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February 19th, 2004, 03:25 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
Johan,
If the defender orders Break Seige, and the Attacker orders Storm Castle, which order is executed first?
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February 19th, 2004, 03:27 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
Break siege, break siege and resulting combats take place at the same time as moving into enemy territory by ordinary means.
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February 19th, 2004, 03:31 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
So Break Siege (and any other movement-induced combats) take place prior to Storm Castle. Good to know. Thanks.
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February 19th, 2004, 03:34 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
IIRC storm castle is the Last combat possible in a turn.
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February 19th, 2004, 04:47 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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IIRC storm castle is the Last combat possible in a turn.
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Sneaking units can be discovered and attacked after.
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February 19th, 2004, 04:53 AM
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Re: Just got smoked in a combat that I *thought* wouldn\'t happen--was this a bug?
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Originally posted by pole_shift:
The attacker (whomever's Capitol you were besieging) was moving into an enemy province (the one with the capitol but controlled by UDH = "undead dolphin hacker"). UDH was moving *his* army as well into an enemy controlled province. The question is: which movement happens first? I believe (but would like dev/veteran confirmation) that the order is randomly determined.
i.e. bad luck for UDH
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All non-friendly movements occur simultaneously, don't they? Which is why if you try to chase a unit you'll never catch him. I guess either someone magically transported in (would that result in a battle with just that unit since magic battles are resolved before movement?) or he got stopped by the small unit moving in (There's some kind of check when two armies collide with a result of one or neither getting stopped?).
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