Main theme + generic theme yes, sub theme with generic theme, no

#1 February 21st, 2004, 09:11 AM

This has been suggested a few times. I feel it limits alot of what you can do when you go with themes. (Specifically hot and cold nations).

I would also ask for a reevaluation of the Dpoints for some of the generic themes or their effect.

Pocus · #2 February 21st, 2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
You want to add a theme to a theme. So why not push the point even further, for example, and have Jotunheim with Utgard, Water Cult, Heart of Winter, and Restless Worshippers? The devs have to draw the line somewhere and it looks like they opted for no stacking of themes at all.

the main theme IS a theme. But allows you nonetheless to add a generic theme.

Yes, why not stack generic themes? I dont see a problem with that. For example, if you take the wonderful Stars!, a client/server TBS as dominions, you had to choose a Primary Racial trait, then you could pick what ever please you in lesser racial traits, if you can afford the design point cost.

note : some LRT where not compatible, and would disable one or another.

st.patrik · #3 February 21st, 2004, 04:32 PM

The question I'm asking is how much people actually use the generic themes. I messed around with 'water cult' some, but not much, and aside from that haven't messed with any of them very much. (actually now I remember I played one game with ceremonial faith, but didn't find it that useful)

Maybe if generic themes were stackable with nation-specific themes they would be used more?

Teraswaerto · #4 February 21st, 2004, 04:45 PM

I've used Ceremonial Faith, Restless Worshippers and Desert Sun a fair bit. Golem & Water Cult don't seem to be worth the cost in design points.

PDF · #5 February 21st, 2004, 04:58 PM

The problem is that the generic theme are usually not worth their cost, and are only useful with certain nations/strategies.
IMHO we should first have more useful generic themes, then we could stackj them with national themes ..

aldin · #6 February 21st, 2004, 06:58 PM

Negative cost themes might be fun too. Like:

(-50) Robin Hood; An irritating, invisible rebel goes from province to province stealing some of the revenue and raising unrest. He will also occasionally cause commanders to gain the "battle fright" wound.

~Aldin

PvK · #7 February 21st, 2004, 07:17 PM

Robin Hood sounds more like a hero character than a national theme.

Careful addition of multiple themes would be good. Care/thought/limits are needed in case of balance issues or annoying things where there are generic themes that you'd always want with a specific national theme, etc.

PvK

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