Main theme + generic theme yes, sub theme with generic theme, no

st.patrik · #1 February 21st, 2004, 04:32 PM

The question I'm asking is how much people actually use the generic themes. I messed around with 'water cult' some, but not much, and aside from that haven't messed with any of them very much. (actually now I remember I played one game with ceremonial faith, but didn't find it that useful)

Maybe if generic themes were stackable with nation-specific themes they would be used more?

Teraswaerto · #2 February 21st, 2004, 04:45 PM

I've used Ceremonial Faith, Restless Worshippers and Desert Sun a fair bit. Golem & Water Cult don't seem to be worth the cost in design points.

PDF · #3 February 21st, 2004, 04:58 PM

The problem is that the generic theme are usually not worth their cost, and are only useful with certain nations/strategies.
IMHO we should first have more useful generic themes, then we could stackj them with national themes ..

aldin · #4 February 21st, 2004, 06:58 PM

Negative cost themes might be fun too. Like:

(-50) Robin Hood; An irritating, invisible rebel goes from province to province stealing some of the revenue and raising unrest. He will also occasionally cause commanders to gain the "battle fright" wound.

~Aldin

PvK · #5 February 21st, 2004, 07:17 PM

Robin Hood sounds more like a hero character than a national theme.

Careful addition of multiple themes would be good. Care/thought/limits are needed in case of balance issues or annoying things where there are generic themes that you'd always want with a specific national theme, etc.

PvK

[ February 21, 2004, 17:21: Message edited by: PvK ]

Gandalf Parker · #6 February 21st, 2004, 07:30 PM

I think the generics that are there are good. They allow you to put power into a particular strategy which might not match what that nation is usually conceived to be. Such as Jotun and water theme or Ermor with cold theme. Adding themes together would be hard to balance I think.

[ February 21, 2004, 17:31: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Pirateiam · #7 February 21st, 2004, 07:37 PM

The only generic theme I am playing currently with is what I call a Magical Ulm -

Ulm with Golum Cult
Pretender - Is a rainbow Master Alchemist

After searching sites my Pretender sits at home Alchemizing massive amounts of gold (which equals huge armies) and my smiths pump out huge armies of buffed mechanical men and Golums. I have done very well against SP and I use it to counter R'lyeh - can you say useless mindbLasts!
It will be interesting to see how it fairs against Humans