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March 1st, 2004, 04:36 AM
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Re: please help me in this game situation !
By now means a solution in and of itself, but maybe you should think about researching to and casting "Wild Hunt" - quite a fun nature spell in which the lord of the hunt attacks a different powerful enemy priest each turn - keeps going until he gets defeated, which is hard since he's accompanied by a pack of wolves and Cu Sidhe. Best part is, you get to watch an enemy priest die each turn, without having to do anything.
The other thing is, if you're getting swarmed by numbers mainly (rather than magic) there are quite a lot of fun spells which can make your army an uber-army. Albeit you will need to empower like crazy to be able to cast them, but for example if you could cast the following spells, your troops would be a lot more hardy:
• Mass Protection/Army of Gold/Army of Lead
• Fog Warriors [gives your entire army mistform]
• Arrow Fend
• Mass Flight
• Life after Death
• Mass Regeneration
All of these affect all friendly units on the battlefield
I experimented with Mass Protection, Mass Flight, and Fog Warriors as Last of Tuatha Man, and combined with good bless effects those Daoine Sidhe were pretty much unstoppable.
All you need is one uber-army and you can go around from province to province, destroying temples and causing trouble.
If, of course you're getting beaten by good use of magic, the solution is different - the above is mainly good if you are facing superior numbers of regular troops.
[ March 01, 2004, 02:39: Message edited by: st.patrik ]
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March 1st, 2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: please help me in this game situation !
thanks for he advices, i will continue the game later today, and in addition to your tips i decided to make a rush for construction in order to be able to get several Juggernauts, those should help too.
Ty everyone ! ill let you know how it goes, ill make some screenshots, too ^^
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March 2nd, 2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: please help me in this game situation !
okay, so here is how it got its end:
i wasnt able to defend myself, just for the record.
After another 2 turns of dominion decrease i realized there was a province with 6 ! Juggernauts at the front, which was connected to my 4 frontprovines as well.
Remember that, 6 juggernauts counterpreaching me. Really hard to come by. In the end i had 6 Priests in each of those 4 provines and wasnt able to get dominion back.
Anyway, when i saw those 6 juggers i thought: good, now i have to use my chance.
I launched a massive assault, was able to eradicate the army. Was approx 450 units, was a hard battle but i was able to win.
My dominion increased again, at least a little.
THen i massed troops of all kinds, draconians, ghosts, knights, crusher, trolls, stuff like that and made a great scale assault, was able to get like 6 provines when i realized i definitly HAD to dispel the Dark Skies.
Imagine fighting in a -10 dominion provines and your glorius knights have a morale of 3. I used 200 Astral Gems for the dispell but i didnt succed. Finally enemy armys arrived and, the low morale given, were easily able to outnumber, outgun and out-quality me.
I NEVER though of dominion as such important, but im sure i wouldnt have lost this game if i would have been able to keep an average dominion of 5-6 which isnt too hard. I will NEVER underestimate this again...
[ March 02, 2004, 15:48: Message edited by: Ragnarok-X ]
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March 18th, 2004, 03:19 PM
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Re: please help me in this game situation !
In the first game I played I was able to recover from having only 3 provinces with positive dominion, under burden of time that the AI recast every time I dispelled it, and I was playing Ulm Iron Faith.
Here's how I did it:
1. Because of BoT, I couldn't buy many priests or temples. Instead I built stone idols and put them on dark servants. I would target a small area, drive his dominion down, then preach up mine.
2. I rebirthed all my dead heros & equipped them, & summoned banes & bane lords & equipped them. All these units were immune to BoT. Some of them were quite powerful -- mummified black priests with heroic strength of 60+ with thunder bows, one with heroic toughness = 175 hp, a bane with heroic defence that became untouchable with some MR items. I summoned crushers & statues to absorb enemy attacks while my mummified heroes ran around with boots of quickness killing. I had a lab on the border with PD of 45, for equipping units and repairing crushers/statues. The computer wasted a lot of units trying to take that province.
3. I got the undead heroes inside enemy territory, and they ran around destroying temples, making no effort to keep the provinces they took, just finding temples to destroy. Since they were all wearing stone idols, everywhere they went they reduced dominion.
4. For quite some time I had to make do purely with summons and no native units, but that turned out to not be so hard.
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March 18th, 2004, 05:31 PM
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Re: please help me in this game situation !
Quote:
Originally posted by Ragnarok-X:
[QBI NEVER though of dominion as such important, but im sure i wouldnt have lost this game if i would have been able to keep an average dominion of 5-6 which isnt too hard. I will NEVER underestimate this again... [/QB]
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Hey, don't stop now. You can get a lot of enjoyment out of "lost" games. Practice your defense. Practise spell combinations. Go for the sea provinces, and experiment with them.
One of the most fun games(and amost frustrating, I have to admit) was (endgame) with marignon against Ermor. Having previously exhausted myself against Arco and Pythium (hey, they were attacking me...). Anyway ermor was clearly winning the game. Hordes of undead took province by province. I mut have bLasted 10.000 of these bastards in a continuous retreating battle, untill i had only about 7 or 8 provinces left.
That is when I amassed my Last huge force. A dozen indie leaders, 17 palladins (some well equipped), a mixed bag of about 40 assorted priests and inquisitors,20 mages (leaving another 10-15 forgers/researchers behind)a host of about 20 powerfull summoned creatures (most had been killed in the "big retreat"), and a few dozen xbows and about 300 assorted other units, were sent on a reconquista. Boy did I have fun retaking a few of those provinces. Eventually I lost, mostly because of newb mistakes (and some gutsy , in retrospect stupid moves). However, the "El Cid" feeling of the Last charge was awesome.
Anyway, unless you're really really frustrated, you should continue that game, at least occasionally.
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