OT: Will anyone ever create a game...

[Argitoth]

Argh! Horizons! They totally messed up the lizardfolk race, they are my favorite race!! Asexual... low intelligence!!

Anyway, I'm looking for a game with both a combat system and non-combat system, but I haven't found any game which has accomplished both well.

I dunno about Horizons, it turned me off the second I read the description of the "lizardfolk-type" race. Dom2 has definitely accomplished the best lizardfolk-styled race I've ever seen.


Like Starwars for instance has a great combat system and and a well-made economy system, but the combat is just way more "fullfilling" and fun.

[ March 09, 2004, 01:40: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

[Ctennyson]

Horizons has butt-ugly graphics, and its a pay to beta currently, but once 6 months to a year passes and it leaves its beta state, it might be cool.

Of course, by then I'll be playing WoW and COH, and will long since have forgotten Horizons exists, but thats the price you pay for bad graphics and a pay to beta.

[djtool]

i'm still currently Subscribed to it. It's left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't think i'll buy another MMORPG until its been out for a while and (heaven forbid) the positivity on the msg Boards out-weigh the negativity.

after AC2 and Horizons...its time for a break (hopefully i won't break down and buy CoH)

[Sindai]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
Like Starwars for instance has a great combat system and and a well-made economy system, but the combat is just way more "fullfilling" and fun.

Most MMORPGs have this to different extents, although how far they take the non-combat aspects varies.

There have been games with extensive non-combat elemtns dating all the way back to Ultima Online, though, and before that if you count mostly non-commercial MUDs and stuff.

There is also a recent massively multiplayer game which is totally noncombat - "A Tale In the Desert" or something like that. Heard about it on the Gone Gold forums. It sounded fairly popular.

Also, I would point out that your opinion on combat being more "fulfilling" than non-combat in Galaxies (which is what I assume you mean by "Star Wars", since there have been, oh, about two dozen Star Wars games) does not apply to everyone, or else there wouldn't be many non-combat players, and from what I understand there very much are.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
I haven't seen a single game where warring is not the only fun thing to do. I'd like to see a game where you actually have a choice to just build a city or delve in the economy system.

Capitalism II
Most of the Sim games
something more oen-ended like a MUD?
a game called "tranquility" (which reminds me of the mind-control game brought back from Riza in the Star Trek series)
Celtic Kings
King of Dragons Pass (an excellent example)

Again it helps that if you are looking for strategy gmaes that arent the average run-of-the-mill junk that gets dished out to the masses then you should gvisit the strategy newsGroups and forums. Same if your thing is RPG games, or action games.

[ March 09, 2004, 02:33: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by PvK:
The whole Sim series (Earth, Ant, etc).

SimAnt was noncombat? I seem to remember the joy of hopping into a Soldier and leading your team to search-and-destroy the enemy queen, and building chokepoints out of rocks, and other such combative tactics.

Then again, maybe I'm just one of those people who can turn anything into a battle.

[Argitoth]

Well I guess it's come to the conclusion it's either strategy or MMORPG genre.

Remember Gandalf, I is talking about multiplayer/Online games, so Sims games won't cut it. MUDs wont really do the trick either because I cannot stand text-based games. They is not for me and a lot other people are turned off by them

I can tolerate SOME MUDs where the graphics are made up of numbers, letters, and cymbols...

Edit: Oh yes, and this thread is NOT just about me.

[ March 09, 2004, 03:15: Message edited by: Argitoth ]