Need ideas for new pretenders.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Ctennyson:
The Lord of the Pit is the most powerful pretender in the game, but I have him at 150 points, and he is probably not worth it. Those are the additions I have made so far. When Johan adds to the modding options, I have a bunch more plans.

Is he still a consumate coward that flees from any battle unless given a large screen of troops?

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Ctennyson:
I'd like a Dead Ctis King, too, for Desert Tombs.

You mean the Saurolich? He already exists.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Morbius:
only every second (or so) turn could be played becaus of its lack of consciousness.
and the rotten smell of the pretender would turn away like half of his total forces and 80% of the forces in his province EVERY TURN.

How many points are you proposing this chassis be worth? -2000? Losing every other turn is really, really harsh.

[Wauthan]

Ctennyson: Thanks for the hint about using graphics from other mods. Funny, but I had not thought of that.

I've reached somewhat of a breaktrough in the spritecollection. Some of you might remember the old classic 3Dshooter Doom. I seems it never really faded away but still has a thriving community that makes mods and conVersion for it. I've been scouring these WADs for sprites and found quite a few that can be used in Dominions 2 after some modification.

While I'm sure the idea of lightningspitting Cacodemons hovering over the battlefield is not everyones idea of a good mod I'm confident that I'll be able to create some kind of "Avatar Mod" pretty soon. If only for other modders so they can use the graphics in it as they please.

As always sprites of females, especially females wearing clothing, is in short supply.

[Ctennyson]

Nah, Norfleet, Saurolich is the Lich/Sauramancer, not the King dude. King is an arch mage type, so King couldnt be immortal, immortals dont get spell picks at better than 40/path it seems.

Also, the Lord's autoimps are gone, lol, #clear is lovely =) He is more like a Titan, now, he only routs if you plan poorly, or get him killed.
Several nations have a shot at him, too, in my Last game, I used the Death Knight, and an AI used the Lord of the Pit. Man, he's tough.

Still, he could be dead, and likened to the Ghost King somewhat(Not identical, not ethereal, no ghost summons, etc), with cheap paths.

I am not out to necessarily do things that are just totally new, I just want to have everything I want to have, in the game as an option. Example: I'd like the King guy dead, for Desert Tombs. I'd like the Saurolich alive, for non-Desert Tombs theme. A Sauromancer with better stats, and in flavor paths. Is it necessary? Definitely not. Any Arch Mage would do. I just want it cuz its in flavor, and because I can.

Well, can when they allow the adding of pretenders, anyway.

Wauthan: with my utter lack of artistic talent, I must steal to produce. lol

[ March 15, 2004, 14:15: Message edited by: Ctennyson ]

[Murph]

The big dwarf you found might work for a King under the Mountain or Dwarf King pretender, high earth magic, expensive extra magic, good combat, adds to productivity and maybe provides +5 gold income per province.

[Cainehill]

These don't go with the graphics you've found, but here's some Pretenders that seem like they should be found in the core game.

Giant Spider: Consider it based on Tolkien or TSR's Lolth or neither, but a natural for Machaka, with all its magic /semi-holy spider units.

Giant / Greater Werewolf: Still waiting for my full copy, so it's possible that Pangaea already has this.

Warlord / Knight pretenders, as several mentioned already: Fantasy literature, even mythology, is replete with warrior kings growing so powerful they aspire to deification. IMO, there's plenty of human mage based pretenders, great - but _no_ human warlord types?

Other animalistic pretenders: Raven, Coyote, etc, based on Native American / South American religions. (Again, possibly already present for, mmm, Mictlan.)