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March 26th, 2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
C'tissian Empoisoners are quite adept at assassinating undead leaders, having death magic ability: Argitoth had Thaum-1, which easily enables him to cast Dust to Dust repeatedly. That'll make it fairly easy to blow through all but the most heavily protected and strongest undead leaders.
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1 Wraith - Protection of the Grabe
1 Assassin - Eagle Eyes
2 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
2 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
3 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
3 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
4 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
4 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
5 Wraith - Moves in to attack
5 Assassin - Dust to Dust (hit) (wraith down to 12 hp)
6 Wraith - Moves and attacks
6 Assassin - DEAD
I tested it time and time again, and never had 100% success. The way I defeated 4 wraiths was giving my assassins 5 death gems allowing them to cast "Raise Skeletons" or "Raise Dead". They summoned around 30 undead each and that was enough to kill a wraith. I have tested and tested until I came up with the perfect solution. Note: I've tried many different scripts using Dust to Dust. Absolutely no script with dust to dust would have 100% success.
[ March 26, 2004, 13:35: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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March 26th, 2004, 03:41 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
I guess the question is...
does SG having units that don't dissolve when leaderless, with its many other advantages, give it such a large advantage over AE as to make the latter theme unlikely to be played?
(i.e. is this the intended behavior?)
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March 26th, 2004, 04:17 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by rabelais:
I guess the question is...
does SG having units that don't dissolve when leaderless, with its many other advantages, give it such a large advantage over AE as to make the latter theme unlikely to be played?
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AE gets many more troops than SG does, have cheaper unholy-4 priests (23 death gems vs 35), gets sacred troops in abundance (SG gets NO sacred troops except the rare Wailing Lady), and does not require a magic scale.
They play rather differently.
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March 26th, 2004, 07:07 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
I've decided to go for lvl 9 conjuration. Nations are helping me survive on every part of the map. I don't think I'll be vanquished from the game just yet.
[ March 26, 2004, 17:10: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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March 26th, 2004, 08:13 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Argitoth:
I've decided to go for lvl 9 conjuration. Nations are helping me survive on every part of the map. I don't think I'll be vanquished from the game just yet.
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I think it's better to go for Thaumaturgy 6, from which you get "Whither Bones", an undead killer. It's long shot but it's better to go for Conjuration 9, which requires even more research points.
You pretender has 8 death, he could keep casting "Summon Ghost". It'll be 9 gems for 8 ghosts for him. Life drain should be magical weapon and so reasonably good versus the undeads. If you had 10 turns, that would be 80. Quite a formiddable army. They're probably still not enough to turn the tide but it's the best you can spend your time and resource on right now. Keep assasinating his commanders might help... SG's commanders is quite expensive.
But it's, at best, a hopeless struggle. Good luck.
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March 26th, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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But it's, at best, a hopeless struggle.
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I strongly disagree, hence I am trying my best. Is life drain a ranged attack? Are ghosts all that strong against lots of undead? I'm just summoning a bunch of bane lords. I guess I'll use 9 gems for ghost summoning and use the rest for bane lords. Those bane lords are very strong.
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March 26th, 2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
Maybe you should add some pale riders into the mix. Their Good fodder and fairly decent fighters.
Your pretender should get 20+15 a pop. 35 ldhorsemn a round are not too shabby (and in my experience better then a single bane lord.)
But I have no real experience against soulgate ermor....
Good luck anyway.
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