OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.

Nargel Primus · #1 June 12th, 2004, 08:28 AM

Having a ball with the references to much enjoyed "classic" games.
MoM also had a unique side effect: my new "I don't play computer games"
girlfriend comes by for the first time and I bring up MoM on the screen.
"Give it a try" I tempt. Snerk...
Full 3-day weekend later she's still there (heh).
Am still married to Faelynn, so it worked pretty well.
One game that hasn't been mentioned that is in the same league for us grognards -
Fantasy General.

Gandalf Parker · #2 June 12th, 2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Pirateiam:
As for abandonware I think a similar rule should follow. If the software is completely abandoned and as long as there is not a monetary gain the programmers should be flattered that someone is trying to revive there old work.

Actually I love the debate and would be glad to debate it with you somewhere like one of my other homes (alt.hacker or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg newsGroups?). And abandonware is a great concept with many pros and cons. There are at least a couple of sites making strong efforts to stay as strict as possible (unlike the "backup" sites which are just warez sites in disquise) but it is stil technically 98% illegal.

BUT this is not newsgroup so its kindof a moot point. Its owned by a game company who does not wish to appear unprofessional. It was created to support their games. That means certain limitations do apply as to what they will seem to support on their service.

[ June 12, 2004, 13:39: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Truper · #3 June 13th, 2004, 01:08 AM

My favorite MoM rememberence:

Summon Torin, adventure with him for a while, find/forge him some good equipment. Send him in to take the castle of the Last enemy wizard by himself.

And now the most important part. When he arrives he must intone: I am the Chosen, and you have annoyed me.

Pirateiam · #4 June 13th, 2004, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:

quote:
Originally posted by Pirateiam:
As for abandonware I think a similar rule should follow. If the software is completely abandoned and as long as there is not a monetary gain the programmers should be flattered that someone is trying to revive there old work.

Actually I love the debate and would be glad to debate it with you somewhere like one of my other homes (alt.hacker or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg newsGroups?). And abandonware is a great concept with many pros and cons. There are at least a couple of sites making strong efforts to stay as strict as possible (unlike the "backup" sites which are just warez sites in disquise) but it is stil technically 98% illegal.

BUT this is not newsgroup so its kindof a moot point. Its owned by a game company who does not wish to appear unprofessional. It was created to support their games. That means certain limitations do apply as to what they will seem to support on their service.

No problem, I understand as I have said before I am a programmer so I completely see thier side of the issue in fact I still have not completely decided on which side of the debate I am on.

( I am a fence sitter) I will discuss this no more on this forum.

On a side note I see you visit the sourceforge quite alot. I am (indirectly) involved in a few projects. In fact I am playing around with an idea starting a project using Python. I do not know this language well so I figured the best way to learn is trial by fire. (The way I have learned my other Languages) Have you ever used Python? What do you think of it?

Gandalf Parker · #5 June 13th, 2004, 03:43 AM

I wouldnt say Im a python programmer. I know enough to make changes in someone elses code. Ive done that with C, Perl, ADA, Scheme, tons of Languages but I wouldnt say Im a programmer. (cept in BASIC or shell scripts)

Pirateiam · #6 June 13th, 2004, 04:00 AM

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Actually I love the debate and would be glad to debate it with you somewhere like one of my other homes (alt.hacker or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg newsGroups?).

Actually I lurk on alt.hacker and other similar news Groups just to keep my eyes open. Currently with the big upsurge of concern over homeland security some of my customers (Water Treatment Plants) want to make sure thier systems are secure since some control systems are now web based so I can log on to troubleshoot problems etc... You guys on alt.hacker are kinda like anti-crackers and just people that thirst for knowledge not really a threat. By the way I love this quote can I use it -

Come here for knowledge, go there for answers. If you don't know the difference, go to AOL.

-- Gandalf Parker

Script Kiddies! LMAO

Gandalf Parker · #7 June 13th, 2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by Pirateiam:

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Actually I love the debate and would be glad to debate it with you somewhere like one of my other homes (alt.hacker or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg newsGroups?).

Actually I lurk on alt.hacker and other similar news Groups just to keep my eyes open. Currently with the big upsurge of concern over homeland security some of my customers (Water Treatment Plants) want to make sure thier systems are secure since some control systems are now web based so I can log on to troubleshoot problems etc... You guys on alt.hacker are kinda like anti-crackers and just people that thirst for knowledge not really a threat. {/qb]
yeah its all white-hats. Almost all of them are system admins or security techs. A nice older crowd than people tend to expect (kindof like this gaming forum)

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By the way I love this quote can I use it -

Come here for knowledge, go there for answers. If you don't know the difference, go to AOL.

Sure. I think I altered it abit later. It read "If you dont know the difference then you can just go to AOL!" which gave more of the flavor.