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Old May 11th, 2004, 01:00 AM
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Well, if you figure that becoming a member of the Internet community has a barrier to entry...
But the poll didn't sample the wider Internet community, it sampled Dominions players. And I think it would be too simplistic (and arrogant) to say that Dominions players are too intelligent to vote for Bush.

More likely, there is something about the persona that is attracted to Dominions that is also attracted to the more moderate politics that the Democratic party is supposed to represent.

Alternatively (speaking as an uninformed Australian onlooker here) it is possible the Dominions players are, for some reason, more likely to accept the media portrayal of Bush, and whoever's advising him, as idiots.
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Alternatively (speaking as an uninformed Australian onlooker here) it is possible the Dominions players are, for some reason, more likely to accept the media portrayal of Bush, and whoever's advising him, as idiots.
Actually, the US news media has by and large portrayed him favorably; possibly because 90% of the newspapers are now owned by large conglomerate corporations whose primary interest isn't presenting a fair and unbiased representation of the news. Two of the only large independently owned papers aren't nearly as favorable towards him : The New York Times is anti-Bush, while the Washington Post is more unbiased.

Also - it isn't the internet community, or the dominions 2 community. I don't drive, so I ride the buses - an awful lot of non-internet type people are pretty unhappy with Bush. Ditto the military (I'm former military, and up until 2 months ago had been working with the military for the 14 years since I became a civilian).

Near as I can tell, the question is : Who the @#$@ are these polls talking to? Registered members of their local Chambers of Commerce? Members of the "Pioneer Club" (people who've raised 10,000 or more for Bush)? Oilmen? Who?
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He did. Cast a ballot, but only vote for things you actually support, or against things you don't. If you don't like any of the choices, don't vote for any of them, but do cast the ballot.
That is not a more effective method of showing disapproval. That either increases a smaller parties share of the vote (whose successes are often reported in terms of single issue politics, and who I don't believe are more able to run the country) or increases spoilt ballots, which do not make Primetime news, and come across as people too dumb to fill in a ballot paper properly.

It also reduces the impact of "X% of people do not vote" headlines, which are the loudest message that people find politics uninspiring.

If another issue becomes more important to me, I will vote accordingly, but I still see this as the most effective way to register what I think.
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Also - it isn't the internet community, or the dominions 2 community. I don't drive, so I ride the buses - an awful lot of non-internet type people are pretty unhappy with Bush. Ditto the military (I'm former military, and up until 2 months ago had been working with the military for the 14 years since I became a civilian).
Also, despite the request that non-US citizens should not take part in the poll, there's no way to keep them from it, and not being able to see the results unless you do vote may be incentive to "cheat". And, around here, I'm not sure I personally know ONE person who, given the choice, would vote Bush over Kerry (though my own personal sample would probably appear VERY biased indeed).
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