Rate the SP AI...

proteus · #1 May 11th, 2004, 01:26 AM

Poll results so far:

The SP AI is some of the best I have ever seen in A PC game 1% (1)
The AI is good and the SP game is very fun to play 46% (34)
The AI is not very good and I dont play much SP because of it 26% (19)
This game has taken the "I" out of AI.... 27% (20)

Well, this result is not a surprise.

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Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I'm sure only newbies like me (I can only consistently beat Easy AI with easy races, still trying to overcome easy Ulm, Jotunheim, Arcosephale, Pythium, Machaka, Ermor, and the more outlandish races in Caelum, Atlantis and R'lyeh on easy) voted for the SP is enjoyable one.

Yup I think so too.

Still this isnt a real problem. I am pretty sure that if these AI problems will be fixed, even an experienced player will have hard time to beat the AI.

[ May 10, 2004, 12:30: Message edited by: proteus ]

proteus · #2 May 11th, 2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:

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Originally posted by Kuroth1:
Hey... Cool So far we have the "Bell Shape Curve" going..... Throw out the highest vote and the lowest vote... Only 1 each so far....

Its interesting. Actually Im kindof surprised at the results. But whichever way it turns out we need to think of it as a poll "for entertainment only". The devs wills see the numbers best if no one intereprets them for them. They are interested.

Yup I agree, but polls are the best way to show the problems, our feelings etc. for the developers!
I wanted to make an exact poll like this one, but kuroth was faster!!

[ May 10, 2004, 12:33: Message edited by: proteus ]

tinkthank · #3 May 10th, 2004, 02:11 PM

No offense, but this poll is fairly odd.

Firstly, each of the four choices is broken down into categories which are purely normative (great, good, not very good, bad), which I suppose is fine enough, but to what are you going to compare purely normative categories? "Good" compared to what?

Secondly, some of the above-mentioned categories are paired with *additional* purely normative ones, namely: level of SP fun. These two options are compiled with the middle two voting options.
These additional categories suggest an implicit syllogism, which also happens to be flawed (the syllogism proposing a supposed causal connection between "fun" value of SP and normative worth of AI in question, the conclusion of which is that a game lacking extreme AI quality will also lack in extreme SP fun).

Judging AI in purely normative categories will get you nothing but subjectivism and a very good chance of inducing weird feelings in developers, should they read the results of these polls.
Additionally, I believe that "fun" and "quality of AI" are not necessarily causally interdependent, and hence I refrain from voting. Temporary conclusion of the foregoing.

proteus · #4 May 10th, 2004, 02:20 PM

4 options for the quality of the AI.

1-very good
2-good
3-not good
4-awful

Just look at the poll like this, and you can choose.

Gandalf Parker · #5 May 10th, 2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
No offense, but this poll is fairly odd.
Judging AI in purely normative categories will get you nothing but subjectivism and a very good chance of inducing weird feelings in developers, should they read the results of these polls.
Additionally, I believe that "fun" and "quality of AI" are not necessarily causally interdependent, and hence I refrain from voting. Temporary conclusion of the foregoing.

Excellent points but I think the vocabulary exceeds the purpose.

It would seem so far that the poll is simply whether or not people like the AI. The only problem I see is if someone tries to jump the gun and say that everyone not liking the poll automatically means that they all thought it was broke. Or that they feel it should be fixed. Or worse yet that they automatically feel it should already have been fixed and should be a priority right now.

proteus · #6 May 10th, 2004, 03:17 PM

Well I agree, that maybe a more detailed poll would be nice, but this is good as well. Simple options to decide the quality of the AI.

proteus · #7 May 10th, 2004, 06:28 PM

*Update*

The SP AI is some of the best I have ever seen in A PC game 2% (2)
The AI is good and the SP game is very fun to play 43% (38)
The AI is not very good and I dont play much SP because of it 24% (21)
This game has taken the "I" out of AI.... 31% (27)

I can tell you 2 things so far after this poll, so far.
1. Lot of people are playing/would like to play the SP part of the game.
2. More than the half of the voters think that the AI is far from good. In fact 31% say that the AI is very bad.
Interesting..

Vote people!

[ May 10, 2004, 17:29: Message edited by: proteus ]