Worst Summon ??

[PvK]

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:

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Originally posted by PvK:
So far I only see people posting about units that they don't appreciate because they haven't figured out how to use them effectively.

Thats how I tend to see it. And most of the game really.

I dont really knock such an attitude. But I do like to say that the way to excell in this game is to experiment and find what works for you. What lets you do the things you would do anyway. Other peoples strategys are fun to read but they dont just fit in your pocket like in other games.

Anyway, I highly recommend that anyone people avoid thinking of things as weak or useless. You will find that advanced players refer to them as "things I havent found a use for yet". That way you might test it again later. Or at least you wont be so stunned when you come up against someone who did find a use for it.

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Those are some excellent points, Gandalf, and they illustrate what a great game this is. In many games that are only developed to the point of release and then abandoned by the corporation that paid for their development, there are only a few best strategies which need to be found and used to play competetively. Dominions gives a lot more leeway for playing with a wide variety of styles. Players can afford to find things that are useful to them, and to discard things which aren't useful, and still be able to play effectively. Also, there are many nations and situations where some techniques aren't very useful, or aren't available, which happen to be great when used by other nations, other styles, or in other circumstances.

PvK

[mr.white]

Personally I'd say Contact Draconians. Extreme cost and while they look kind of neat on paper they seem to die very easily in practice.

[Kel]

Much like, in other threads, where invicible != unbalanced...

Worst summon != Useless.

- Kel

[tinkthank]

I agree with Gandalf here too, which is why I was loathe to post in this thread.
Maybe we can interpret "worst" as "most costly" or something...?
But I just had to post because someone just mentioned Draconians as a poor summon; but mixed in with a bog beast or two and/or other nice poison immune troops, and you have a seriously powerful troop. A bit of cannon fodder, 2 bog beasts, and some dracononians led by a dracochief is my idea of an excellent bang for your buck. Draconian chiefs can summon more draconians if he has nothing else to do, which I just love. They are perfect hit-and-run summons and can wreak havoc behind enemy lines. If you play Caelum, for instance, draconians tend to appear less interesting, but there you go.

[calmon]

Air Magic (like Fire) isn't a summon-path so Draconians are good enough. The queens are unique and the draconians are the best alternative. At least if you want to invest airgems for summonings.

[ May 18, 2004, 10:40: Message edited by: calmon ]

[Teraswaerto]

I used Hama Dryads once to defend against Ulm, who was trying to storm my castle. Awe works well on low morale Ulmish troops, steal strenght negates armor, and eventually the Ulmish army routed. Of course, if Ulm had had archers the Dryads would've been toast.

[PrinzMegaherz]

ALL VINE OGRE army... that wouldn't be so hot. However, combined as something ELSE the enemy must deal with, along with whatever else you have, vine ogres can make a big difference, especially because they don't use food, are fairly fast, and you get a lot of toughness for every spare ordinary leadership point you have.

I don't think vine ogres are bad. My Last game as Man used lots of them (30 Ogres + 70 Longbows for most armies), but again, summoning 3 of them is a very slow process... I like troll kings court. even though it might be too expensive, it is fast.