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Old June 9th, 2004, 05:52 PM
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Thanks for the info - I've only played single player games so I was speaking from my limited experience. I'm looking forward to MP games but wanted to get the basics down before I started playing against other people.
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It's like when I go and talk to a smoking bird at a rave and say "What's your name?" what it really means is "let's get it on."
I have never found smokers attractive.
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It's like when I go and talk to a smoking bird at a rave and say "What's your name?" what it really means is "let's get it on."
I have never found smokers attractive.
Smoking as in so hot she's smouldering I believe.
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Ah, the allure of Abysian ladies. *g*

On a more serious note, regarding SP diplomacy the AI has enough of a problem handling double-edged gifts (Lycantropos amulets, Rods of the Leper King, Bane Venom Charms, Eyes of Aiming, that sort of thing) and not reacting when getting anonymously mauled via magic, or reacting to the presence of assassins/spies that adding more options might be just cruel.
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It's like when I go and talk to a smoking bird at a rave and say "What's your name?" what it really means is "let's get it on."
I have never found smokers attractive.
I agree, it's a terrible thing to see a saucy bint pull out a faggot from her purse and puff away in filth. I do like the hotties in the old tyme movies that smoke a lot. Bergman, Kelly, that lot, but it doesn't translate well in real life, sort of like the walking and smoking thing. Sure James Dean did it, but it's still effeminant for a man in real life.
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One thing that would really help to keep track of the diplomacy in MP games would be if the Messages sent / received were exported and saved to a text file.

That way, you could at least look at the text file and see who you'd made agreements with, see whether you've been backstabbed, and know if you were supposed to stay out of certain provinces, etc.

In particular, with a lot of MP games going on at once, it can be -very- difficult to keep track of these diplomatic issues, even with copious notebooks / text files.

Saving the Messages /events automatically would be trivial to implement, if not fun, and would save a -lot- of players a lot of time and effort.
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OK part of this thread seems borked by the import to the new forum software so I will repost the part that made me bring it forward.....

There are work-arounds in multiplayer games for
1) alliances and peace treaties
2) sharing map info
3) trading to get spells cast (you cant trade spells)
4) trading commanders and troops
5) combining attacks
6) move thru an allys territory
7) offer a losing ally "sanctuary"
8) (probably more, feel free to ask)

For SoloPlay with the AI's, diplomacy is much more limited.
A) You can send gold, slaves, equip which can be helpful and strategic. It doesnt make them like you but it can help nation A beat nation B. Handy if nation B is one that you have problems with, and nation A will be no problem for you later.
B) You can ally with AI's but only by setting it up at the beginning of the game, and it only sets up a "no attack each other" arrangment.
C) Of course, like most diplomacy arrangments you can abuse the diplomact options that already are in the game (messaging stuff to them) by sending things to an AI that the stupid AI would be better off refusing.
D) With alittle bit of strategic planning you can arrange for 2 AI neighbors to go to war with each other (another common diplomatic tactic).

The developers have said they were interested in increasing the SP Diplo options but other things have to be higher on the wishlist
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