getting ready for an ocean invasion

MythicalMino · #1 June 9th, 2004, 03:54 PM

R'Lyeh has shown up near my borders, expanding throughout the seas. How do you prepare for an invasion into R'lyeh waters? Atlantis waters?

Thanks

(this game, I am playing as G.A. Arco)

NTJedi · #2 June 9th, 2004, 03:58 PM

If it's R'Lyeh... then you'll need fast troops to attack large enemy monsters: which usually works for avoiding the cannon fodder in front and blitzing the back. Also I recommend lots of archer types.

tinkthank · #3 June 9th, 2004, 04:15 PM

I'd not recommend archer types quite so much since you cant shoot underwater.
I have no experience with Arco GA or what your pretender is, but you get lots of elemental with astral, right? Air and Water will get you the items that take you underwater; then I'd go mounted troops to reach his rearmost fast.
Do you have any death mages? Lots of undead work well too, since they are mindless and hence immune to mind bLast; magic resistance on your mages helps too. Your astral mages can mind bLast as well. I think it's a level 5 conjuration spell, gets you a dozen sea trolls and sea troll capnt, forget name, that should do the trick too. Once you get one prov conquered, start recruiting tritons.
Is that helpful?
What paths you got researched? How far into the game are you? What's your pretender?

NTJedi · #4 June 9th, 2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
I'd not recommend archer types quite so much since you cant shoot underwater.

Yes I see now he is looking to invade the waters... I thought he was preparing for an invasion from them.
my mistake

NTJedi · #5 June 9th, 2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Do you have any death mages? Lots of undead work well too, since they are mindless and hence immune to mind bLast; magic resistance on your mages helps too.

The majority of the army should not be undead because otherwise all the mind bLasts will go straight to your commander of the undead.

Daynarr · #6 June 9th, 2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by cpbeller:
R'Lyeh has shown up near my borders, expanding throughout the seas. How do you prepare for an invasion into R'lyeh waters? Atlantis waters?

Thanks

(this game, I am playing as G.A. Arco)

Simplies solution. Get death mages and maximize death gems production. Pale riders led by several Bane Lords are gonna do the job most efficiently and painfully for enemies.
Pale riders single casting gives you 20 riders for only 10 gems. Bane Lords cost 10 gems IIRC. So, its relatively cheap underwater killer army. You will need to give some water breathing items to your BL's but playing Arco that shouldn't be a problem.

Master Shake · #7 June 9th, 2004, 05:12 PM

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The majority of the army should not be undead because otherwise all the mind bLasts will go straight to your commander of the undead.

This is not true. If you place your commanders at the very back, Illithids will usually Mind BLast mindless units up front. Also, Spirit Mastery is a great summons - the units are throw-away (10 for 4 death gems), but are not mindless and will soal up Illithids bLasts.

Graeme Dice · #8 June 9th, 2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Master Shake:
This is not true. If you place your commanders at the very back, Illithids will usually Mind BLast mindless units up front.

Do the Illithid's actually target mindless units? That's definetly a bug.

NTJedi · #9 June 9th, 2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Master Shake:

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The majority of the army should not be undead because otherwise all the mind bLasts will go straight to your commander of the undead.

This is not true. If you place your commanders at the very back, Illithids will usually Mind BLast mindless units up front. Also, Spirit Mastery is a great summons - the units are throw-away (10 for 4 death gems), but are not mindless and will soal up Illithids bLasts.

What I listed is one of the tips the developers provide which appears between turns. You can go argue with them.

[ June 09, 2004, 17:59: Message edited by: NTJedi ]

Master Shake · #10 June 9th, 2004, 08:52 PM

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Do the Illithid's actually target mindless units? That's definetly a bug.

My experience is that Illithids target nearby Mindless units over non-Mindless commanders at the very back of the map.

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What I listed is one of the tips the developers provide which appears between turns. You can go argue with them.

I realize it is one of the tips. And if you leave your non-mindless commanders in the default position (middle of your portion of the map), they will definitely get Mind BLasted. However, I have found that if you park them at the very back, the Illithids do not bLast them unless there is nothing else left on the battle. My experience is that Illithids target nearby Mindless units over non-Mindless commanders at the very back of the map.

Try it against Rlyeh AI sometime.