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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
quote: If my memory serves me correctly (and it rarely does this) I remember no evidence of the borg ever having researched anything on their own.
They merely assimilate other cultures and gain technology that way.
Well, at the very least, they had to develop enough technology on their own to assimilate their first culture. Unless it was a barbarians vs. Rome situation, which doesn't fit what little I remember of their origin story.
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May 26th, 2001, 06:48 PM
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
quote: Well, at the very least, they had to develop enough technology on their own to assimilate their first culture. Unless it was a barbarians vs. Rome situation, which doesn't fit what little I remember of their origin story.
I would think that it would be easiest to start them with no research ability, but already have basic assimilation techs.
If you copy most of the components and "borgify" them (improve their performance slightly, make them regenerate and only available to borg), then you would have a really neat system.
The borg would capture a shield generator I, and they would analyse to get a Borgified Shield Generator I, which fits in with the rest of their tech.
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
Has anyone checked out my Borg mod at all? - interested in feedback you may have.
I set up a Borg Technology group to overcome the racial trait problems, which incorporates many of ther features being discussed.
eg Regenerative structure, self repair systems, a Borg boarding component (went for this over the Allegience Subverter to reflect the effect of shields), a transwarp conduit generator (emergency propulsion 10 movement points!), neural interface, etc.
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May 27th, 2001, 05:19 AM
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
Your mod kicks arsse. 
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May 27th, 2001, 08:01 AM
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
Suicide_junkie wrote: "I would have to suggest that you give the borg organic-style regenerating armor. Allegiance subverters are IMO too powerful, instead, think about using boarding parties that regenerate via the organic armor ability."
The boarding parties can made ineffective or even harmful, if the enemy ships use self destructing devices. There is no weapon and no ability until now for a weapon, that could destroy selectively the self destructing device. You are right the allegiance subverter is powerful but so are the Borg!
Organic armor is very good unless the enemy has crystalline technology with the shard cannon. Therefore I would prefer strong shields, which is also in line with the Borg in Star Trek. And it would make the shield ignoring weapons like null space projector more important.
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May 27th, 2001, 04:10 PM
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
I posted a first modification with the new assimilation racial technology in the Mod section. For the description of the new components see my first message of this topic.
Please report the feedback here in this topic.
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May 27th, 2001, 07:45 PM
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Re: Borg assimilation racial technology
quote: The boarding parties can made ineffective or even harmful, if the enemy ships use self destructing devices. There is no weapon and no ability until now for a weapon, that could destroy selectively the self destructing device. You are right the allegiance subverter is powerful but so are the Borg!
That is true, but borg (or anybody else) have never been able to beam through a ship's shields.
I believe that the AI will avoid making a capture attempt if the other vessel has a self-destruct, so you don't have to worry about the Cubes being blown up during a capture attempt.
quote: Organic armor is very good unless the enemy has crystalline technology with the shard cannon. Therefore I would prefer strong shields, which is also in line with the Borg in Star Trek. And it would make the shield ignoring weapons like null space projector more important.
I don't mean organic armor as in armor, but I'm suggesting you use that ability on every internal component on the borg ship. So even null-space damage will be healed over time  You'd have to bLast through the shields with normal weapons so you can get high-damage hits to internals, and overload the regeneration ability.
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