OT: Crusader Kings

[Boron]

do you have other paradox games too ?
eu 2 , hoi , vicky ?
i have all three and they are very good too .

[MythicalMino]

i had EU2 and HoI....i need to get EU2 again now, since games from CK can convert over to EU2....750 yrs of history you can play....

I will wait for HoI2...i do want to get Victoria...that looks pretty good

[Tuna-Fish]

The only problem with the 750 years of play is that anyone can do a world conquest in Ck in ~300 years with the help of your friendly neighbourhood mongols.

Anyway, CK is a very good game. Unlike other paradox games, where there usually isn't a set goal, but you simply try to amass VP's without any clear purpose, CK has a very good "goal". Like, "could duchy of flanders make it against mongols if i never claim a king title but just all the duchies and conties of lowlands?"

Also, it's quite remarkable as a paradox game in that it's only Version 1.03b and I think the game is actually complete, stable and gives you a good challenge.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Tuna-Fish:
The only problem with the 750 years of play is that anyone can do a world conquest in Ck in ~300 years with the help of your friendly neighbourhood mongols.

Anyway, CK is a very good game. Unlike other paradox games, where there usually isn't a set goal, but you simply try to amass VP's without any clear purpose, CK has a very good "goal". Like, "could duchy of flanders make it against mongols if i never claim a king title but just all the duchies and conties of lowlands?"

Also, it's quite remarkable as a paradox game in that it's only Version 1.03b and I think the game is actually complete, stable and gives you a good challenge.

in hoi the goal is to win world war 2
in general in all paradox games the ultimative goal is a WC
@ cpbeller
vicky is a very nice game but unlike eu2 / hoi the main focus is on improving your economy
it plays quite different from these 2 but is ihmo the best of the 3 .
but it is microhell and one thing is annoying :
revolt risk(RR) is checked daily so when you conquer e.g. china you will have in whole china a RR of 2-10% and this Lasts for i think 10 years . so you will have each day 10-20 revolutions
10k killed rebells mean depending on difficulty settings something like 5-20k killed population .

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Boron:
10k killed rebells mean depending on difficulty settings something like 5-20k killed population .

Meh. This is freakin' CHINA we're talking about. 5-20K is an insignificant drop in the bucket. More people than that die of natural causes every day.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Boron:
10k killed rebells mean depending on difficulty settings something like 5-20k killed population .

Meh. This is freakin' CHINA we're talking about. 5-20K is an insignificant drop in the bucket. More people than that die of natural causes every day.

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you don't know the game do you ?
and this was only for 1 typical revolution . they are very common so in order to repacify china you kill at least about 50-100 million of chinese most likely in the 10 years you need .
50-100 from ~300 million cause it is the china from 1830-1920 .

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Boron:
you don't know the game do you ?
and this was only for 1 typical revolution.

Haven't played it. 5-20K people killed over one revolt is a reasonable number, though.

they are very common so in order to repacify china you kill at least about 50-100 million of chinese most likely in the 10 years you need.

50-100 *million* people in 10 years? What the hell are you using on them, NBC weapons? Obviously this game of yours is a little warped in the realism department. These kind of numbers sound less like pacification of a revolt and more like systematic genocide on a scale that would not really fit with the timeframe you say this game is in.

~300 million cause it is the china from 1830-1920 .

That's still a lot of Chinese, even if it's not modern billion-plus.