Some New (Water) Spells

[Boron]

hm i think water is already useful enough with quickness , breath of winter and clams .

but nice ideas

[Endoperez]

This is linked to oold discussion in which the participants agreed that Water has no useable high-level spells. The biggest is 5 needed for Murdering Winter, easily accesible by Water 3 mage who can forge the boosters him/herself.

[Endoperez]

Oh, now that I remember: there can not be Magic/Holy spell. Atleast it is not moddable... Would have helped T'ien C'hi with Celestial Summons, and been thematic to the Saber Cherry's Ice Age mod I have been hoping to put together sometime.

Liquid Form is very similar to Mist Form. It could be tested by modding Mistform to take W3 to cast. Level 3 is rather high, though, to be used by non-summon combatants.

[ July 19, 2004, 15:06: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

[tinkthank]

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Oh, now that I remember: there can not be Magic/Holy spell. Atleast it is not moddable... Would have helped T'ien C'hi with Celestial Summons, and been thematic to the Saber Cherry's Ice Age mod I have been hoping to put together sometime.

Ah right. Actually, it could be a good idea to implement a holy/arcane casting structure, but I suppose that is too much trouble. Then bag the HH requirements on Holy Water.

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Liquid Form is very similar to Mist Form. It could be tested by modding Mistform to take W3 to cast. Level 3 is rather high, though, to be used by non-summon combatants.

You are right. Scratch that from the list.

[Endoperez]

Do not scratch it! I like the idea of Liquid Form! All other elements have protective spells, so I cannot see why Water couldn't have one that worked on land... And it would be nice for Water Elementals as well.

Short list of differences between elementals:

Fire has Fire Shield, and while it does not protect the wearer from the hit it might prevent another... And has the agressive feel of fire in it. Fire elementals have this ability.
Earth has protection in stone/iron/steel skin spells, all being strong materials and embodiment of earth in many ways. Earth Elementals have mid-to-high-level protection, haven't summoned them recently.
Air has both Mirror Shield and Mistform. They help one to evade the full force of enemy's attack, to distract them, but once they figure it out it will be broken. Air elementals are ethereal instead of mistform, obviously because they can not revert to physical state. I would like permanent mistform more, but etherealness is the next best thing.

Water elementals have many attacks, low protection and no real special ability, as far as I remember. Now that I think, I haven't summoned water elementals in DomII yet, so I don't know about their possible higher-than-normal defence, but they souldn't really be that hard to hit, only to damage... Liquid form of some kind would be nice.

[ July 19, 2004, 15:32: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Do not scratch it! I like the idea of Liquid Form! All other elements have protective spells, so I cannot see why Water couldn't have one that worked on land...

Water does have a protective spell that works anywhere. Quickness boosts both attack and defense. The liquid form described below would be as powerful as personal luck, which would mean that water mages would now have effective hitpoints 4 times (with liquid form and luck) what they currently have, as well as quickness.

I would like permanent mistform more, but etherealness is the next best thing.

A permanent mistform would necessitate a severe reduction in hitpoints, since that would reduce all damage to only 1 hitpoint.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Do not scratch it! I like the idea of Liquid Form! All other elements have protective spells, so I cannot see why Water couldn't have one that worked on land... And it would be nice for Water Elementals as well.

water has breath of winter as "damage" shield .
i myself find it quite nice .