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July 22nd, 2004, 03:22 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
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Jarls are 34 resources though, as opposed to 18, so if you're resource as opposed to gold limited, they may not be the best option. If you're short of gold though, they are cheaper.
quote: Woodsmen are a poor choice in bang-for-the-buck, unless you are playing a bless strategy. They are quite fragile, compared to other choices, and expensive.
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Yes, I realise this. I only use them if I find resources to be a problem. In my Last game, I could recruit 6 woodsmen and two axemen in one turn, as opposed to just four axemen. But if gold is a problem at all, they're not really worth it. Jotunheim will always be resource-limited. But, IMO, a key to playing Jotuns is building quality troops, not quantity. Jotunheim doesn't really have cheap troops (resource-wise), nor cheap enough to be treated as fodder. So if you aren't going to build fodder, then make sure that each trooper counts. Jotuns are kind of like an entire army of elites that crush with disdain anything that gets in their way. The only things you have to be concerned with are knights (and heavy cavalry), Ulms, and anyone that can swarm you at 4:1+ odds (beware of Ermor).
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July 22nd, 2004, 03:46 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
Well it looks like I'll be learning this game with Jotun and a Wyrm...
A question, do you need to have troops in a stack for a Wyrm to conquer a province by himself? (Ie, just put them in the back?)
PS, does anyone know where I can get a non-2.08 Version of the demo so Utgard will work right? Thanks!
[ July 22, 2004, 14:50: Message edited by: Gavinfox ]
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July 22nd, 2004, 04:08 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
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I haven't got into forging yet (I haven't been playing too long), but I can't see the skull staves in the forging menu. Is there something I'm missing, or does the demo just not have them?
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You have to research construction magic to level 4 in order to forge both skull staves and thistle maces. The magic item quick reference that is available on the main page is a good reference for what each item does.
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July 22nd, 2004, 04:15 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
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A question, do you need to have troops in a stack for a Wyrm to conquer a province by himself? (Ie, just put them in the back?)
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What do you mean "troops in a stak for the wyrm to conquer a province by himself"? That seems directly contradictory. You don't need any troops with the wyrm to occupy the province. It beats the defending indigenous defenders and the province is yours.
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July 22nd, 2004, 04:37 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
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The magic item quick reference that is available on the main page is a good reference for what each item does.
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The Version available for download from Shrapnel's page is about 4 Versions behind the current one. I'd recommend getting it from my site at this link.
EDIT: if you visit my site, go ahead and grab the other downloadable docs which I host while you're there. You'll be glad you did.
[ July 22, 2004, 15:40: Message edited by: Arryn ]
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July 22nd, 2004, 04:41 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
There will actually be a new one out shortly, too. I just have to pdf it.
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July 22nd, 2004, 04:46 PM
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Re: Help, read all the faqs, playing demo, dont know how to PLAY...
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There will actually be a new one out shortly, too. I just have to pdf it.
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Heh. I'll believe it when I see it in my email inbox. Zen's been promising me it (along with others) for weeks. 
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