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[NTJedi]

Well Kerry has been boasting about providing healthcare for every citizen in America. That screams economic nightmare because the cost will be enormous....... and guess who's going to pay for it.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
Well Kerry has been boasting about providing healthcare for every citizen in America. That screams economic nightmare because the cost will be enormous....... and guess who's going to pay for it.

Yes, healthcare costs a lot, but it costs a lot regardless of whether the government collects taxes to pay for it, or the people pay for it individually. There's also the fact that national healthcare systems such as the Canadian one provide the same services for 57% of the cost.

[NTJedi]

I'm not fond of the idea of paying healthcare and medication costs for the lazy people in the USA which just don't want to work or earn money decently. Government controlling our entire healthcare would do this.
Giving government even more power/control is not the answer.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
I'm not fond of the idea of paying healthcare and medication costs for the lazy people in the USA which just don't want to work or earn money decently.

If you don't have a moral problem with not providing health care to everyone, and hence allowing them to suffer and die from preventable causes, then there's not much I could ever say to convince you otherwise.

[Huzurdaddi]

There's also the fact that national healthcare systems such as the Canadian one provide the same services for 57% of the cost.

I guess you have never tried both services personally. They are not at all comparable. Canadian health care sucks.

*IF* you can afford US health care it is far superior. Period.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
If you don't have a moral problem with not providing health care to everyone, and hence allowing them to suffer and die from preventable causes, then there's not much I could ever say to convince you otherwise.

That's not what I said... I will write with a different explanation.
Providing complete healthcare for all citizens will give more reasons for lazy people not to work and people doing illegal actions to continue.

As far as any moral problems... John Kerry is unapologetically pro-abortion. But as a Catholic, he is required to be personally opposed to the idea.

[ July 26, 2004, 19:52: Message edited by: NTJedi ]

[Demosthenes]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
Providing complete healthcare for all citizens will give more reasons for lazy people not to work and people doing illegal actions to continue.

Sort of. Most people who choose to work aren't doing it for healthcare. They're doing it for the Plasma TV or the new car or, uh, food.

Creating a system to prevent the lowest levels of society from literaly dying in the gutter from lack of health insurance is IMO not likely to increase unemployment.

I'm not big on Federal Welfare programs et. al. myself, but I'd like to know that if I ever find myself on the bottom rung that I could still get an appendectomy free of charge.

[ July 26, 2004, 19:51: Message edited by: Demosthenes ]