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July 29th, 2004, 12:14 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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quote: Originally posted by Stormbinder:
ROLF. Norf, unfortunately for you, I happen to be a military history buff, with particular interesst for WW2 weapons. And what more, my grand-father got a top State Award of the Soviet Union (Stalin's Premium) for designing very different oil filtering system for T34 during WW2. So please, don't tell me about T34 unless you want to show yourself even more stupid that you already did, and make me laugh harder that I am laughing as already.
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*golf claps*
Bravo. Good for you. As you can see, it's not too hard to get to one. LOL. The point is that you don't have one. You don't even know how big or how small it is, as you just clearly demonstrated. It is just another delusional story that you mumble about, since you think that it fits your "tough" fictional character, if he would be driving around on very own T34. Along the lines of your other stories, like attacking people with LAWS, booby traping your garage with deadly explosives, being shot by misitrious assasins, hiding in nuclear shelter for the Last several years, et cetera... 
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July 29th, 2004, 12:18 PM
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Corporal
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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The notion that some all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal entity capable of existing outside the laws of the universe would actually deign to care about something as insignificant as humans is arrogance and conceit on the part of such believers.
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To accept that something is omnipotent and omniscient means that unless they explode themselves with logical immpossibilities (big bang maybe??) they know everything and can do everything and could likely place equal consideration to every single atom in the universe with no limit on his unlimited resources.
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July 29th, 2004, 12:19 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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Posted by Arryn the Monist, Functionalist Materialist
May I assume by your logic that you are a hard aethiest ?
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No, you may not. Nor do I take kindly to the tagline you've ascribed to me.
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And storm ! its Spirokeat ! as in a mispelling of that critter you get with limes disease. !
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I prefer "Spike", also.
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July 29th, 2004, 12:23 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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The notion that some all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal entity capable of existing outside the laws of the universe would actually deign to care about something as insignificant as humans is arrogance and conceit on the part of such believers.
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Hmmm. How about the notion that any insignificant human could accurately discern what an all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal entity would or would not deign to care about?
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July 29th, 2004, 12:24 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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To accept that something is omnipotent and omniscient means that unless they explode themselves with logical immpossibilities
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Omniscience and omnipotence is a logical impossibility in itself. If you haven't studied philosophy (and physics), you might try doing so.
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July 29th, 2004, 12:25 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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Hmmm. How about the notion that any insignificant human could accurately discern what an all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal entity would or would not deign to care about?
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Touche! 
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July 29th, 2004, 12:27 PM
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Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
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Arryn the agnostic and skeptic
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Surely as a skeptic you would be first in the house to put forward possibilities of how something could be outside the boundries of a prescribed theory ?
And as for the 'spike' thing, bah. If i accept the theory that your all just ideas generated by my mind and when I stop thinking about you then you cease to exist till i start again, without god to be thinking about you constantly then 'ole whitebeard' doesnt seem like a bad concept.
Spiro.
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