Dispell question

[Zapmeister]

I'm pretty sure that you can't "wear down" a GE, so the 101+ dispell will be required. Now I have a question.

How is the contention resolved when 2 GEs collide, either by the table being full or 2 GE's of the same type being cast? I believe that, if the table is full, the "target" existing GE is chosen at random, but I don't know, in either case, how the winner is determined.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
How is the contention resolved when 2 GEs collide, either by the table being full or 2 GE's of the same type being cast? I believe that, if the table is full, the "target" existing GE is chosen at random, but I don't know, in either case, how the winner is determined.

If the global table is full, the global to be replaced is chosen sadorandomly. If the globals collide because of a duplicate, the stronger of the two triumphs and the weaker is laid to burnination. Basically, globals, and dispels, have a strength which is correlated to their cost, the casting skill of the mage, and a small random factor which tends to be fairly minor. How that strength is calculated based on base cost, added gems, and casting skill of the mages in question is something I'm uncertain of, but basically, "more is good".

[Zapmeister]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
If the global table is full, the global to be replaced is chosen sadorandomly.

But there's no mention of strength there. So does this mean that, when the table is full, even a GE cast with no extra gems is guaranteed success provided a GE of the same type does not already exist?

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
So does this mean that, when the table is full, even a GE cast with no extra gems is guaranteed success provided a GE of the same type does not already exist?

As far as I've seen in my own games, yes.

EDIT: I've yet to have one fail, hence my statement above. Which is why I don't have much use for dispels. I find it much easier just to cast some global spell *other* than the one that I wish gone and trust to blind luck that the one I wish gone will go poof. Kills two birds with one stone: I get a global I want, and I remove one I don't wish to see.

[ July 27, 2004, 04:30: Message edited by: Arryn ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
But there's no mention of strength there. So does this mean that, when the table is full, even a GE cast with no extra gems is guaranteed success provided a GE of the same type does not already exist?

No, it merely means that the global to be targetted for replacement is chosen sadorandomly in the event that the global you are attempting to cast does not already exist on the board. It does not mean that the replacement is successful: If the global board is full of globals rammed up for several hundred gems each, your base-cost global has slightly less than a snowball's chance in hell of making it.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
I've yet to have one fail, hence my statement above. Which is why I don't have much use for dispels. I find it much easier just to cast some global spell *other* than the one that I wish gone and trust to blind luck that the one I wish gone will go poof. Kills two birds with one stone: I get a global I want, and I remove one I don't wish to see.

I think this is because you play single player.

The AI doesn't ram globals up with great force, so most of the time, a human global intended to be resistant to dispelling will easliy overwrite an AI global. However, if you already HAVE globals up, the sadorandom nature of the global targetted for replacement will more or less insure that your existing global is targetted.

[Arryn]

Which is why Dom 2 is really two different games. It plays so much differently in MP than it does in SP, despite a common set of rules.