spamming castle all over feasible?

[tinkthank]

Howdy, and welcome to the dom2 Boards!

First of all, you may want to use the "search" button in the top right corner to search for "castle" or castling or similar terms, there were many threads on this topic which may be of more help to you than my humble words.

Now on to your questions, I hope I understood correctly:

Point a. Rarely will you find many (especially: many neighboring) provinces producing 100 gold AND 50 resources. This is a Rare Thing under normal richness settings.
Point b. You need also to calculate the 450 gold you are spending for your castle.
Point c. There are times when you really need a lot of resources, e.g. if you want to recruit, say, Ulmish or Abysian infantry, or especially in your capital if you want Marignon Knights of the Chalice. Units with 30 to 61 resources a piece will NEED neighboring resources or they will only be able to get 1-2 units a turn.

Otherwise, you are right -- if you do find a lot of provinces with really high gold production AND resources, you may want to build castles in them. However, it will be rare for a province to produce 100 gold without a mine, and it will usually nót have high resources too.

Don't forget, however, that you will need 450 gold per castle and someone to build it for 3 turns.

Did I understand your question correctly?

[Vynd]

I believe you are right that having forts of some sort in every province will maximize your output of gold and resources. As tinkthank says, though, the added resources and gold won't always be worth the cost of building the fort. It is also worth keeping in mind that you only need so much resources. Increasing the resources in some out of the way province where you won't build anything anyway does nothing for you.

So in practice, when you do see someone building forts everywhere, it usually has more to do with making their territory easier to defend than it does boosting output. Although the extra gold is certainly nice. Also, this strategy usually involves one of the cheaper-to-build forts like a Mausoleum or Watch Tower, not a Castle or something like it. The time and gold you have to invest in a Castle means it just isn't cost-effective to build them all over.

[Boron]

yeah if you have a 30+ admin castle :
only castle important provinces , either chokepoints or special provinces with e.g. good indies you want to build

if you have mausoleum or watchtower just build them everywhere

[pohtato]

i get all your point there... Boron said that if you are having masolleum and watch tower (those cheap and fast) build them all over but for expensive and time consuming castle type built only on important places.

i plan to focus on marignon default mass Knight of the chalice and xbow man.....so i think spamming castle isn't a good tatic.

but what if i intend to go mass on cheap units...with every province having a castle, i can mass produce in every province...the extra income can also help me to maintain the upkeep.

Originally posted by tinkthank:

Don't forget, however, that you will need 450 gold per castle and someone to build it for 3 turns.

i think if we go into long term planning, the cost used to build those castles would be offset by the income per turn eventually

[ August 05, 2004, 01:24: Message edited by: pohtato ]

[Zapmeister]

Originally posted by pohtato:
i think if we go into long term planning, the cost used to build those castles would be offset by the income per turn eventually

My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually". A lot can happen between now and eventually, most notably that your opponents might notice the vulnerability caused by ploughing most of your funds into expensive castles, and hardly any into a standing army.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually".

You will pay the price for your lack of vision!

If you never bother to think beyond the here and now, you will die horribly anyway as you stumble around aimlessly with no sense of purpose. Plan for the future, and when it comes, the here and now takes care of itself.

[Zapmeister]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

quote:

---

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually".

You will pay the price for your lack of vision!

If you never bother to think beyond the here and now, you will die horribly anyway as you stumble around aimlessly with no sense of purpose. Plan for the future, and when it comes, the here and now takes care of itself.

---

That's not what I meant. Plan for the future by all means, but take account of the fact that paybacks that are a long time coming may not come at all.