So how 'bout those Mets?

Stormbinder · #1 August 11th, 2004, 02:11 AM

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Agrajag · #2 August 11th, 2004, 04:22 AM

I wonder if Cainehill was named UN or UN202 or some other change on UN, since he is the biggest flamer I know from another board... (NOT that Im implying that Cainehill is a flamer, this is only in regards to stormbinder's "they rememeber my flames for years in other Boards" accusation)

Vicious Love · #3 August 11th, 2004, 09:08 AM

You realize what this means, don't you? Any one of us could be Norfleet.

Leif_- · #4 August 11th, 2004, 09:18 AM

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You realize what this means, don't you? Any one of us could be Norfleet.

I'm Spartacus!

Sheap · #5 August 11th, 2004, 03:50 PM

No... *I'M* Spartacus!

Vicious Love · #6 August 11th, 2004, 05:50 PM

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I'm Spartacus!

Heh. I was actually going to end my post with that line. I'd already typed out "I'm Spart" when I thought better of it.

Leif_- · #7 August 11th, 2004, 06:01 PM

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Heh. I was actually going to end my post with that line. I'd already typed out "I'm Spart" when I thought better of it.

Oh, but nobody would have believed you - you're clearly a Brian, not a Spartacus.

Cheezeninja · #8 August 11th, 2004, 07:57 PM

Well. Well indeed.
I've been gone for the Last few days and i come back and we have a huge rigamahoopshamwamdingle. Of course i can't resist the urge to add my two cents, although i'll try my best to remain ...well... i suppose i'll try to remain honest to myself.

On Norfleets cheating:
Between Norfleets early defensive bs, the factual numbers, and Norfleets hasty exit, the case seems pretty clear at this point. Norfleet was cheating. Obviously its not the end of the world, and while its important to find out how he did it so it could be fixed, i dont think it necessarily follows that he should be Banned forever. I liked Norfleet. Despite his arrogance he could be quite funny, and helpful as well, and he would obviously know more about fixing these cheats/glitches than most others. While most games and forums might ban a player for his first infraction, i'd think that most people would agree that both this game and this forum are like no other. I could definetly see conditional parole for Norfleet were he to help fix whatever glitch or weakness he is exploiting. Obviously many people here would no longer want him in their games, and its equally obvious many people are going to be watching their games like a hawk in an effort to prevent any future cheating.

On the subject of Stormbinder:
Yes, you were right, we all know it, even if some of us refuse to admit it. Norfleet cheated, and you proved it and got one up on him. You came off very unctous and lowball doing it though. Now im not trying to insult you, though i understand how it could be taken as such... but you could have gone about this in an entirely different way. I could practically hear the snickers you must have been holding back in both your original post and your post with the actual numbers, you were OBVIOUSLY very happy to be destroying Norfleet on this forum, and that bothered me nearly as much as Norfleets cheating. In the end the cold hard truth is that you did this community a great service in exposing a cheater who was willing to exploit the game and others so he could lord it over us all, and i thank you for it.... But dont expect me to have to like you for it.

On the subject of the powers that be:
I have on occasion been given to think that sometimes certain Moderators come off as arrogant and dissmisive to those that havn't been around as long as they have, but on the whole i find all the seniority around here to be helpful, polite, and fairly open minded about any issues that come up. I can see why they locked the original post about the cheating, but im not sure i agree with it... Locking a corpse in a closet just means its going to stink that much more when it finally does come out in the open, and with an issue that is as serious as this and strikes so deeply as this issue does.... some negativity and displeasure is bound to be voiced. And i dont believe that should be a problem. It will be a sad state of affairs when we are no longer allowed to vocally make our displeasure known about something... attempting to lock down threads about an issue as important to MP games as cheating is just going to start ugly talk of censorship on top of the whole cheating issue. All in all, kudo's to you for paying attention and lavishing your time on this wonderful game.