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August 30th, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
1. natarajas are male.
2. they suffer cold fatigue from caelum's dominion
3. due to their usual function as brawlers w/out massive paths, they tend to accumulate afflictions - hence their popularity w/ Arcos.
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August 30th, 2004, 03:38 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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archaeolept said:
1. natarajas are male.
2. they suffer cold fatigue from caelum's dominion
3. due to their usual function as brawlers w/out massive paths, they tend to accumulate afflictions - hence their popularity w/ Arcos.
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1. correct . the name sounds feminine though 
so i continue saying her 
2. sure . i never said though that i use her as an earlygame sc 
nataraja is 0 points +3 dominion so giving her a bit fire + air magic ( for travel ) and a bit earth for forging + invulnerability since caelum lacks earth is not too expensive .
2 death is an almost must to summon spectres finally .
but thats all in all not so expensive so i can go quite good scales
when i use her lategame i fight often outside my own dominin anyways so until i have an undead pretender i will always suffer some fatigue against either heat or cold opponents anyway .
3. i use her only fully equipped as mid-lategame sc .
if i get afflictions then it should be not too difficult with my astral income which is quite nice as caelum if needed to summon first a coatl and then a fairy queen with coatl + treelords staff .
cause 1 of my spectres should be able to summon a coatl sooner or later
so nataraja is relative useless earlygame ( but a good sitesearcher ) but mid-lategame she is better than a ghostking or a vq as sc and she is cheaper than a vq and about as expensive as a ghostking .
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August 30th, 2004, 04:18 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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correct . the name sounds feminine though 
so i continue saying her 
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August 30th, 2004, 04:54 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
as "raja" means "king", I admit that i'm perplexed by the supposed femininity of it.
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August 30th, 2004, 05:13 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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as "raja" means "king", I admit that i'm perplexed by the supposed femininity of it.
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it is a language thing .
but in german you have not only the but 3 different words :
der ( normally for male )
die ( normally for female )
das ( normally for things )
but you say e.g. :
der mensch = the human
a human can be male and female . but here you chose the male variant der .
die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .
in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol
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August 30th, 2004, 05:29 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
I think "rani" is the feminine of "raja" (based on "Flashman & the Great Game"). It is an Indian word but I do not know what language.
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August 30th, 2004, 05:54 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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It is an Indian word but I do not know what language.
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Hindi, IIRC.
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August 30th, 2004, 05:35 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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it is a language thing .
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Sorry, it's not. It's a thing of education.
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die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .
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So you're one of the reasons of the Pisa-results. "Die See" = the sea. The lake = "der See". There's a difference in there, and the right pronoun is rather important.
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in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol
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Please consider yourself a Christian for a moment. Now imagine some noob in some forum goes calling Jesus Christ "daughter of god", because her name sounds stupid for a male in his native language.
I'm german, and the arrogance and lack of respect for other cultures and Languages shown by some germans (among others) always tics me off.
Add edit:_ /rant off. Back to topic.
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August 30th, 2004, 05:53 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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I'm german, and the arrogance and lack of respect for other cultures and Languages shown by some germans (among others) always tics me off.
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Not much different than similar behavior by all too many of my fellow Americans. However, what's particularly egregious about Boron's Last post, and something that especially annoys me, is that after he was corrected on the subject of gender, he continues to do things his way (regardless of being wrong). What that shows me, as apparently it does to you, is that he's willfully dismissive of all things that do not fit into his rather narrow worldview. Whether such things be proper language use, game rules he finds inconvenient, people's opinions, or even historical events.
Thanks for trying, Karacan. But I'm afraid you're wasting your efforts with him. And do not worry about the image he presents of your countrymen, as he's not representative of the average or majority (at least not in my own experience with Germans). Though I do sympathize with the bad taste he leaves you. 
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August 30th, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Re: Caelum pretender design
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Karacan said:
Quote:
Boron said:
it is a language thing .
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Sorry, it's not. It's a thing of education.
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die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .
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So you're one of the reasons of the Pisa-results. "Die See" = the sea. The lake = "der See". There's a difference in there, and the right pronoun is rather important.
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in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol
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Please consider yourself a Christian for a moment. Now imagine some noob in some forum goes calling Jesus Christ "daughter of god", because her name sounds stupid for a male in his native language.
I'm german, and the arrogance and lack of respect for other cultures and Languages shown by some germans (among others) always tics me off.
Add edit:_ /rant off. Back to topic.
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oh with der see and die see you are right karacan
i am not bad educated though . at least i made my abitur without much effort 
i just never showed liking for the subject DEUTSCH .
and in the internet i don't care too much about capitalization and punctuation .
i am a christian and believe in god but i would see someone foreign calling jesus die jesus not too bad he just doesn't know better .
and humorous films about religion like southpark , dogma and life of brian i like very much too .
i find it rather funny though that nobody seems to have interest in the main part of my message that the nataraja is a good pretender too and instead just almost flaming me because i gave it a female pronoun instead of a male one half because i found it funny and half because i didn't care and didn't think someone might care if i use him or her for a few pixels anyway .
in german der and die nataraja sound both ****ty though .
but to judge ones education only with his ability to speak his mother language perfect is a bit too one-sided .
hey i am no second Wolfgang von Goethe .
i guess you are better in Deutsch as me karacan but probably i would beat you in history knowlegde e.g. i guess 
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