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September 15th, 2004, 05:01 AM
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Re: Rant: Evil Doer\'s Strike Again.
Say, Atrocities, may I just congratulate you on coming across very convincingly as a right wing nut case?
You love Bush, but you have no idea what's he has done to the military, to the people in the military, to politics (funding lying attacks against 3 war heroes from Vietnam, while dodging service there himself, just like - Cheney, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, and Perle, to name 4 massively prominent hawks in the administration. Bush approved of lies about McCain (whom I would vote for in a second), Max Cleland (lost 3 limbs in Vietnam, was the congressman who originally proposed a Dept of Homeland Security, which Baby Bush _opposed_ originally), and now Kerry), to the environment.
From 1989 to March of this year, I was with US Central Command, first as a Marine, then as a contractor. You might say I was paid to keep track of what was going on. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld hamstrung the war efforts, for political gain. They screwed up Afghanistan, then Iraq, and threw away the chance to actually nail Al Qaeda.
And some of Boy George's most celebrated stunts, like having Thanksgiving in Iraq with the troops? BS. Because of Bush, troops in Iraq were turned away from the chow hall and wound up eating cold MREs (Meal, Ready to Eat - pLastic bags full of nasty tasting food) for Thanksgiving dinner. Why? Because they only wanted good, safe, republican Bush-lovers in there. For security reasons, only approved, invited, troops were there.
Similarly, when he landed on the air craft carrier and the sailors applauded? They were ordered to applaud, and told not to applaud before they were given the signal. Again, a crock of BS, and on top of everything - the ship was ordered to stay at sea an extra day, so Georgie could get his photo-op, never mind the sailors who hadn't seen their wives/husbands, kids, etc, for over 6 months.
I'm not going by what was in the papers (although it was mentioned in some papers, but not often or loudly). I'm going by 1st hand accounts from friends in the military.
Feh.
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September 15th, 2004, 03:37 PM
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Re: Rant: Evil Doer\'s Strike Again.
Calling me a right wing nut case is not an accurate essement of me. I am neither right wing nor left. I merely dislike Kerry more than Bush.
I am voting for Bush because Kerry's stance on a few issues important to both myself and my way of life scare the hell out of me.
The rest is just politics being politics.
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September 15th, 2004, 04:47 PM
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Re: Rant: Evil Doer\'s Strike Again.
Well, to be fair, he said you came across as a right-wing nutcase, not that you *are*, AT. You've proven over and over that you are capable of critical thought, which is a major thing lacking in all nutcases (right-wing or otherwise).
And you've mentioned these issues that Kerry differs from Bush on... but never said what they are. Care to enlighten us?
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September 15th, 2004, 10:42 PM
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Re: Rant: Evil Doer\'s Strike Again.
Thanks Will.
I prefer not to discuss the issues important to me on a pubic forum at this time. But I will say that Kerry's recent stance on the experation of a recent law really does alarm me given the facts that he ignorned. Past that I will not discuss the topic.
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September 20th, 2004, 03:43 AM
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Re: Rant: Evil Doer\'s Strike Again.
Gee. The assault weapons ban? Personally, I might think that they fall well under the 2nd amendment, which was meant to allow the people to oppose tyrants and their own government. As a senior citizen who voted for Bush Last time said, "I'm so ashamed I voted for him. I did it because of gun control, even though I don't like guns, but now ... If someone isn't going to shoot Bush, what good is having guns?"
As I stated - Bush has screwed the military, he's screwed the authority of the states (which he campaigned for), he's screwed the economy, the environment, the war on terror, the war on drugs (he screwed both by deciding to go after Iraq for personal reasons instead of finishing the job in Afghanistan), he's screwed the middle class. The only things he's helped are corporations, the rich, Al Qaeda (albeit even I'll concede that he didn't _mean_ to help them), and the fanatical religious right.
For Christmas' sake, with a war on Iraq and terror going on, his administration is proposing a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. And putting 200 secret service agents to work cracking down on ... music pirates! Like Al Qaeda is financing explosives by sharing songs on Limewire. And let's not forget, Ashcroft deciding that no, states shouldn't have autonomy - not when it involves medicinal marijuana, not when it involves people's right to not suffer for years while hospitals and insurance companies get rich, not when it involves states attempted to enforce clean air laws that are tougher than the ones which Bush is gutting.
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