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October 15th, 2004, 09:18 AM
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Re: PBEM
Using a server is nicer, but email is not so bad. It just means that people need to know how to locate their Dominions game folder and email the right file to the host, etc. With the right shortcuts, it is quite easy.
Using a specific email subject line would help the host to keep track of emails by having them routed to a specific folder by using rules in Outlook.
Creating a mailing list would allow the host to mail out the turn files to players easily, too.
Dragonfire11 is currently hosting an email game with 4 players. He emails the other players' turn files to all players (in other words, I get the other players' turn files, too, as attachments to the email). That way, Dragonfire needs to send only ONE email per turn opposed to special emails to each player. I assume that passwords would prevent players from peeking into other players' turn files. (I have not tested this theory, because I am a lawyer and, therefore, I am physically unable to cheat or lie. I am sure Brother Dragonfire11 would back me up on this fact.)
Playing by email, however, requires players to be very careful to look at the date and time of emails and game files to make sure they are dealing with the most recent game files. It is easy to accidentally email or save an old game file and screw things up. I see this as the biggest risk of players getting upset.
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October 15th, 2004, 09:59 AM
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Re: PBEM
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(I have not tested this theory, because I am a lawyer and, therefore, I am physically unable to cheat or lie. I am sure Brother Dragonfire11 would back me up on this fact.)
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Hmm, since you were not born a lawyer, so logically there was a point before which you could physically cheat or lie. What happened during this point??? 
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October 15th, 2004, 11:23 AM
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Re:Game restarted!!!
I always thought that you could tell a lawyer was lying because his lips moved! Or maybe it was Graham Grassbahl who is spreading these bald-faced untruths about the peaceloving nation of Caelum who is getting UNMERCIFULLY invaded by his aggressive neighbors!
Anyway, I see that the server is back up. So I restarted the game and it now seems to work. This also had the HUGE advantage of resetting the timer to 24 hours so that the four people who had been unable to move will not stale.
It would be very bad if this fine game were be ruined by Pasha Dawg or Deccan or Pickles getting a stale during such a critical time with their ongoing unprovoked invasions of a peaceloving neighboring nation.
So - you warmongers get your turns in!
As for peeking at peoples turns, as host, I have the master password in this game so I believe that I could conceivable look at other peoples turns. But if I had to stoop to that in order to win, then I would either have to shoot myself or become a lawyer due to the shame of it all. Besides, since I have consistently failed to predict where Deccan or Pasha and even Arco (his attack on my capitol was a huge surprise to me) were moving their armies during their invasions, so they can easily attest to the fact that I have never looked at anybody's turns. Nor will I ever do this.
So, my point is that I would have no problems trusting an honorable person hosting even though they could peek at other peoples turns. Someone needs to have a master password anyway in case something goes wrong and a turn file or two needs to be sent to Illwinter or to convert a missing player to AI.
I will also say that I had forgotten to assign a password in my Mictlan game and on two occasions, I saw stupid things in my turns that I simply could not remember actually doing. While it could be due to my increasing age, it also could be that my opponent whom I was at war with peeked and did something to me. I prefer to believe the former, much as it pains me to admit that memory is the second thing that goes.
I just hope my daughter in pre-law at the University of Caelum (formerly known as the University of Oklahoma) never reads this thread!
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October 15th, 2004, 11:32 AM
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Re:Game restarted!!!
Yay, it looks like it works fine now. Thanks Panther. Now I can go back to killing evil Caelumnites...
Though it looks like it's Pasha's turn to be put through the false horror grinding mill...
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October 15th, 2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: PBEM
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(I have not tested this theory, because I am a lawyer and, therefore, I am physically unable to cheat or lie. I am sure Brother Dragonfire11 would back me up on this fact.)
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Hmm, since you were not born a lawyer, so logically there was a point before which you could physically cheat or lie. What happened during this point???
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An ontological change occurred when I took the oath for admission into the Bar. Someone even had to attest to my good moral character before the Maine Supreme Judicial Court. 
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October 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM
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Workin\'
The game seems to be working again, and I have taken my turns. (It's always fun to be the Last person to go every so often, because you get to play two turns in a row... yeeehaw!!)
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October 15th, 2004, 08:39 PM
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Panther
Good shock & awe tactics, Panther. Can you keep it up? "Is that all you got?" <hopping from side to side with my dukes up...>
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October 16th, 2004, 09:08 PM
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Re: Panther
I'm having connection problems again. Tried many, many times.
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October 16th, 2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: Panther
Same here. I restarted the game and it seemed to clear up once again...
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October 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM
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Re: Panther
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Good shock & awe tactics, Panther. Can you keep it up? "Is that all you got?" <hopping from side to side with my dukes up...>
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The president of the University of Caelum showed up unannounced in the chambers of his highness.
"Oh noble invisible one!"
"Yeah, what do you want this time?"
"Uh, well, sir, we are trying to understand this odd message from Grasbahl, sir."
"And?"
"And we think we have it!"
"Well, it's about time. My tax money is disappearing from paying all you idiots. I ought to get something for that hard cash. So spit it out."
"Well, sir, we have decided that Grashbahl is drunk!"
"DRUNK???"
"Yup. He is making absolutely no sense. And his army is wandering aimlessly about in our territory. First west. Then south. Then north. Now east. Who knows where he is going next???"
"So, this means he is drunk?"
"Yes sir."
"How do you figure that?"
"Ah, it was my own daughter who found it!"
"Found what, you idiot?"
"It's a little known mathematical formula called a drunken walk! Grasbahl's actions match the formula almost exactly! I told you that sending my daughter to college for a useful degree like engineering was going to work out great!"
"Well, at least this means we can predict where he is going next, right?"
"Um, not exactly."
"What??? Just plug that idiotic drunken Grasbahl into the equation and tell me."
"We did that sir."
"And???"
"And each direction is equally likely."
"I see... So what good is this then?"
"It advances our knowledge base, sir."
"But I am paying your university for USEFUL knowledge. Like Ghost Riders. Or Niefel Flames. Something I can actually use, darn your hide! My provinces are revolting from all the unrest due to the tax money I am sinking into your bottomless pit. And you give me this? The drunken walk??? Get out of my sight!"
"Yes sir." And the old man shuffled out of the sacred chamber at once.
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