Gamey tactics discussion thread

[sachmo]

they are not the enemy until you declare war.

Unless you know they are the enemy before they do!

I feel this is an exploit of a hole within the game.

Totally understandable. My point is that if it's a sneak attack, it's likely to get past your defenses anyway. They still have to deal with WPs and defense forces.

And if your going to use it. Include the ability to sweep the 100 mines... Then it is fine

A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down?

But if your going... Man I have no minesweepers so i am going to attack and declare war at the same time to by pass the other guys mines then it is a gamey tactic.

Again, I can totally see this side of it. I just think it's a nasty trick instead of a gamey tactic!

Suprise attacks are fine.

I guess that's how I see this.

As long as this little bug is not exploited.

Don't know if I agree that it's a bug. More like a temptation.

[geoschmo]

In my opinion the sneak attack is a classic move and well within the bounds of the rules. I wouldn't call it gamey or cheating to move your ships over an allies world in order to bypass his mines and then break treaty and attack.

This is not gamey anymore then mining an allies space while under treaty is.

On the other hand, you should expect to reap what you so if you employ these tactics. Don't pull them on someone, and then act all shocked when they don't trust you in the future.

Geoschmo

[Fyron]

Shouldn't mines detonate before any ship attacks the planet anyways? Why are the minefields around my planet _not_ active against ships that just happen to be in the sector already? Sectors are massive locations, so its not as if the mines would all be one the edge of the sector... Any time you attack a planet in a sector that has a minefield up, you should have to go through the minefield, regardless of whether you moved there as an "ally" or not... It would be the same thing as being able to ignore orbiting satellites just because you entered the sector as an ally. Would that make any sense?

[spoon]

Imperator Fyron said:
... Would that make any sense?

Sure -- I mean, as long as you are making "reality"-based assumptions to how something as unrealistic as SE4 mines work, you can just go ahead and assume that all allies have either maps or IFF codes to bypass the mines, and that it takes exactly one turn to modify the mines positions/codes for them to work against the sneaky bastards who attacked you.