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October 25th, 2004, 10:08 PM
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Re: New Game
I would be the very first to agree that the false horror spell is overpowered and needs to be nerfed. I already posted that elsewhere on the forum. Nearly any race but Ulm can counter it, but the cost is usually higher than the cost to Caelum for doing it. Only Arco, Pythium and R'lyeh can easily beat the horrors without having to target it specifically since they are usually researching up Thaumaturgy anyways. Abysia has a good counter if they go the devil path. Until the inevitable Caelum staff of storms shows up, that is.
I also suspected that you were going to enlist Ulm in your alliance, so that is why I went to 3 day QH to slow down the game while he was gone. I did not want Pasha's holiday to influence the game, and it really did not all that much.
I too was surprised just how easily your GK died. I did not know you would attack with the lone GK, though. I did expect you to attack there, but with your army, and maybe also with the pretender. And because I was so close to getting the required number of VPs, I decided to jump in with every single troop I had that could reach the castle. I definitely wanted to break the walls in one turn to try and win the game at once by taking that VP. It was a very nice army. I think I had 23 mages, 2 AQs and a ton of archers, ogres, and draconians. I had 2 wine bags and the army was still starving! I had not realized until this game that the Caelum archers are size 3 and eat more than you would think.
Turns out that I found Pickles with an undefended VP province that he took from Ermor and that is what let me go one over the requirement. It was my insurance policy in case I lost the battle to you.
As for the bane lord, I never did get the chance to attack it with a decent army and see how it might have worked. And, as you know, I did lose several times with a small strike forces of a single seraph and a couple of archers when I guessed wrong on where you were going.
I always seem to easily predict the AI during SP. But people are rarely predictable, which is one of the things I really like about this game.
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October 26th, 2004, 12:36 AM
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Re: New Game
Ok Ok I was the best placed to defeat Panther and in my arrogance I thought I might have had a good chance.
Even though we attacked without Pasha it was still two on one and Pasha could join the attack within 3 or 4 turns.
In my defense it was my second multiplayer game and I think I have learned from it.
We will see.
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October 26th, 2004, 12:51 AM
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Re: New Game
Hey, congrats on the win Panther - now if only there were trophies to bring home to Albuquerque. 
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October 26th, 2004, 01:57 AM
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Re: New Game
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Hey, congrats on the win Panther - now if only there were trophies to bring home to Albuquerque.
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Hey thanks, Cainehill. Even though I could not convince you to attack Jontunheim when you subbed for Pasha, you did a good job despite that!
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October 26th, 2004, 06:06 AM
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Re: New Game
Yes Panther congratulations are in order, even though I finished second place in most graphs I am very skeptical that I could have defeated you, even if I had jumped on the attack panther bandwagon with everyone else, and beleive me I was invited and encouraged to do just that many times.
So I think even if the game had continued and we had gotten into a conflict you would have won.
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October 26th, 2004, 08:52 AM
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Re: New Game
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Hey thanks, Cainehill. Even though I could not convince you to attack Jontunheim when you subbed for Pasha, you did a good job despite that!
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October 26th, 2004, 09:28 AM
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Re: New Game
It's fine with me to use the mod... I just need to figure out how to set it up. Is it easy to switch between mod and non-mod games?
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October 26th, 2004, 09:37 AM
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Re: New Game
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It's fine with me to use the mod... I just need to figure out how to set it up. Is it easy to switch between mod and non-mod games?
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Since you're not hosting, you only need to have it installed, you won't need to activate it. The game will automatically use the correct mod if the turn file calls for it. You will need to enable the mod to create your pretender though.
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October 26th, 2004, 10:24 AM
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Re: New Game
PashaDawg, yes it is very easy to switch between Mod and Non mod games. This is the only Mod I have used and with this one, you only need to have the Mod installed and enabled at the time you create your pretender. After that just having it installed is enough.
Other games you have already started will be completely unaffected, whether you connect to them with the Mod enabled or not.
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October 26th, 2004, 01:01 AM
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Re: New Game
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I too was surprised just how easily your GK died. I did not know you would attack with the lone GK, though. I did expect you to attack there, but with your army, and maybe also with the pretender.
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Well, I didn't know you would move that much stuff there! I expected maybe the two AQs, the Wraith Lord, plus some seraphs, but I didn't know you that that big bunch of archers, draconians etc. on hand.
Besides, I was worried that if I sent in the GK with a bunch of giants, the false horrors would just scare the giants away and the GK would just rout with them.
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