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July 24th, 2001, 05:26 AM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
Ringworlds and sphereworlds are essentially really friggin HUGE planets.
Ringworld is something like 10 times the Huge planet size, spheres 20 times..
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July 24th, 2001, 06:24 AM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
They cost a fortune and take forever to build (five years IIRC), but once you've got one built you can turn it into an impregnable fortress. For a Ringworld:
Max Cargo Spaces := 64000
That's space for 2560 heavy fighters, or 106 heavy weapon platforms, not even considering that if you were really insane you could stick up to 100 cargo facility IIIs there for an additional 300,000 cargo spaces (12,000 heavy fighters! You probably _can_ have that many there, since the unit limit only applies to what's in space not what's in storage). It'd take a while to build all those cargo facilities of course, but you can use the base space yards you used to construct the thing in the first place to supply the units.
If you built a sphereworld instead, double all the numbers above; 29,120 heavy fighters or 713 heavy weapons platforms for a sphereworld packed to the gills with cargo facilities. Ringworlds and sphereworlds are inherently immune to planet-destroying and sun-destroying weapons too, BTW. No need to waste resources on gravitational shield facilities for them.
And then, once you've spent hundreds of turns building the mother of all fortresses, you can lose it to a puppet political party thanks to the 1.41 CI bug.
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July 24th, 2001, 06:26 AM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
Eee! Corporal BeeDee! Now _I_ get to terrorize the pitiful PFCs all over the forum!
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July 24th, 2001, 06:47 AM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
"There is nothing more dangerous than a Lieutenant with a map and compass.."
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July 25th, 2001, 01:44 AM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
I'm currently in the process of assembling my resources to build a sphere world, just for the fun of it with no real practical purpose, since I'm so far ahead of the two remaining AIs anyway. This is a REALLY large scale project I'm undertaking, because I'm planning to build the super-planet in a blackhole system with 4 damaging warp points which happened to be in the middle of my empire.
So, the first step was to build a warp point opener and a warp point closer, then rebuild the 4 warp points (done). Next I'm building a blackhole destroyer, a star creator and a fleet of 21 construction ships (underway). The Last step will be to build the sphere world itself (to be done).
BeeDee, do you mean this is going to take 5 years plus the construction time for the components? I also gathered that all the starbases containing the components must be built in the same square where the sun is, is that true? Strategically speaking I really don't see a point to build this monster, it is more like a monument than anything else.
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July 24th, 2001, 02:33 PM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
here is a 6 player map with each starting point a sphere world. Just go in and edit each sphere to match atmoshpere and planet type. Makes for a great pbem game or a really hard game against tdm mod pack ai's. I wish I could make the game so that you only have 30 turns before the sphere worlds go nova. That would make for an intersting turn. Nothing like starting with 70 billion people 300000 minerals and 126000 research points.
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July 24th, 2001, 04:55 PM
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Re: Ringworlds and such
You could consider a RW/SW to be mostly a prestige object... although, in the Peacemaker-type game (that I set aside for awhile when I found out about the JA2DL user-created campaign; killed Deidranna (well, several of them... strange mod) again) with a hefty resource surplus I'd started to construct sphereworlds around stars that were listed as unstable, as a preventative measure. I seem to recall that once you get the "star is about to explode" warning, you don't have enough time to build an SW without refit-chains, and you may not be able to build an RW unless you have sufficient spaceyard ships already assembled somewhere and ready to go... and it would have been *cough* irritating to lose a core system to a preventable incident. SWs/RWs prevent such stellar catastrophes (including artificially-induced ones), and are also immune to planet destroyers.
One note is that they start breathable / optimal, and with 150%/150%/150% values. Thus, they're great for monoliths (if you *need* the resources at that point...). The additional population capacity also means that, eventually, you can get some higher production modifiers than you can with a "mere" breathable-huge. It'll still take you basically forever to fill the world with monoliths, unless you're Temporal in which case it'll take you a fraction less.
[Edited when colonDL turned into, well,  L...]
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