Lower level summons?

[tinkthank]

Hey thanks.
It is as I feared for 90% of the summons, then.

NERF! NERF!!!
(Heheh.)

No, but seriously, it is something to consider for dom3.

PvK, do you think you could post (or send me) your Mod, I would greatly be interested in it. Thanks!

[sushiboat]

I would prefer to see lame spells (including most lower level summons) improved instead of good spells nerfed. Even before I knew what the higher level summons were, I would read the descriptions of most of the lower level summons and wonder why I would ever waste a mage's time with those spells.

[The_Tauren13]

sushiboat said:
I would prefer to see lame spells (including most lower level summons) improved instead of good spells nerfed.

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That is what I don't understand about the people on this forum. If you nerf the good summons or improve the lousy ones the result is almost the same. In fact, the only real difference is that by nerfing the good ones you are also making national troops better, which is a very good thing, whereas if you improve the weaker ones, national troops just become more useless than they already are... I guess people are just scared of the word 'nerf'; Zen is over there balancing the game by improving weak summons and everyone loves it, but let someone suggest nerfing something overpowered, like devils, and they get ripped for it.
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[sushiboat]

It's not the same. I told you that before I had even seen an ice devil or a wraith lord in action, I thought that lower level summons bit the big one. It is not a comparison issue for me. Many of the spells are lame, in and of themselves. If all spells become that lame, I will find another game.

[Graeme Dice]

The_Tauren13 said:
In fact, the only real difference is that by nerfing the good ones you are also making national troops better, which is a very good thing, whereas if you improve the weaker ones, national troops just become more useless than they already are...

There are plenty of people who don't want to see the game degenerate into a zerg rush of national troops. The opportunity cost of a level of magic research is quite large, so the benefit you receive should also be quite large.

I guess people are just scared of the word 'nerf'; Zen is over there balancing the game by improving weak summons and everyone loves it, but let someone suggest nerfing something overpowered, like devils, and they get ripped for it.

No, I would say it's more likely that people get ripped for making a statement of opinion as though it were a fact.