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Old February 17th, 2005, 02:46 PM

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Hey, sorry if I sound harsh, but frankly making controversial and inflammatory political statements, and then dodging any real debate, is emblematic of the entire problem the US faces today. Watch the talking heads on CNN, Fox, or whatever. People just shout their points, and the facts are lost while they scream at each other.

This country's political state is pretty cruddy right now largely because no one actually listens any more, instead we use rhetoric and insults and volume to score points. This approach, whether in a listserv, a public forum, or on the news, is part of the problem.

Don't be part of the problem. Listen, deal in facts, rebut logically, and be willing to change your mind. I am convinced that that is one of the marks of a mature polity and civilization. When we lose the ability to look at and discuss facts then we might as well call an end to the experiment that is Democracy.

With that in mind, I call's them like I sees them. Think globally, act locally, and all that. I'm not just gonna sit by and watch the political process get murdered any more than it already has. And one of the places where I can make this effort is here. So, yes, I will call people out when they are part of the problem. Sorry if it offends, but to do otherwise would be to condone to the slowly murder of the political process. And, yes, I too am guilty of this. We all are. But we are sentient human beings who can change our minds and our behavior.

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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:02 PM
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Hey, sorry if I sound harsh, but frankly making controversial and inflammatory political statements, and then dodging any real debate, is emblematic of the entire problem the US faces today.

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I think he was refering to Alneyan, who was just being a wisenhiemer, and not really political.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:14 PM

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Doh! I feel stupid. Sorry! Removing foot from mouth now.

Guess I'm wound a bit tight, eh?

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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:57 PM
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Actually, I think this message was aimed at Atrocities: the reply field was Atrocities and not Alneyan, while Atrocities was not the last poster at the time of this message (so it was not a quick reply thing). I feel that the message fits in best with Atrocities as well, mainly because of the "Doesn't matter" part.

But I guess it could have been aimed at myself too. Or perhaps not. Still, I stick with my point that Alarikf should not be allowed to have several minds, among other things.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:04 PM

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Still, I stick with my point that Alarikf should not be allowed to have several minds, among other things.
Hey! I'm gonna call the the society for the protection of multiple-brained humanoids!

Besides, I need more than one brain to even survive in SE4 games where I'm fighting you.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:16 PM
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Wily Alarikf! Do not cross me, and you will not need to fight me; nonetheless, feel free to spread the word about my extraordinaire cunning and unparalleled genius. If that can scare off would-be enemies, it will be one less war to fight, and wars not fought are wars we won.

Since you are planning on fighting you, I also forbid you to ever change your minds: changing schemes are really not called for. I feel especially silly for giving you a small tip about your designs in that game, just when you were planning to declare war on me. At least, I did not tell you *too much*, but still, I shouldn't be so talkative. And speaking of not being talkative, I will stop digressing here.
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