AI and surrendering

dogscoff · #1 August 3rd, 2001, 09:53 AM

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I'm sorry Natsef-Amun... but the SE4 AI behavior to accept/reject surrender, is very predictable and logical. You only need to check the corresponding Politics.txt file!
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Does veryon look at the AI files when playing the game? I wouldn't do this, as it givs m (anothr) unfair advantage over the AI - aftr all, he can't look at _my- AI files=-)

BTW, about getting "unsurrendering" enemies to surrender, try this. It might work, it might not:

Blockade each planet and intel it with anarchy Groups until the angry population rebels and the planet splits off from the empire. You can do more to anger the population by winning battles in that system. I could be wrong but I think the newly formed empire might use different AI files to the "parent" empire, and therefore be more susceptible to surrender.

It does seem to be quite difficult to force a rebellion though, I've been blockading a major Crysonlite world for ages, intelling it every month and it still won't split=-(

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Atrocities · #2 August 3rd, 2001, 11:41 AM

You can modify the AI files, and boost the AI advantage while setting up the game.

Then, set the Ministers to AGGRESSIVE, and see if they surrendar then.

PS, checking the AI files for AI weakness while playing a game is as cheap as using a trainer while playing IP game. Nuff said.

(Bad habbit, no offense)

Atrocities · #3 August 3rd, 2001, 11:42 AM

One thing I have also noticed is the fact that the AI never demands your surrendar. Why is that?

Atraikius · #4 August 3rd, 2001, 12:12 PM

Wasn't there a thread a while back discussing AI demanding surrender, and something about the demand surrender/subjugation/protectorship not working?

Like stated earlier - the AI surrendering all depends on how the AI was set up. Some will never surrender, some surrender easily, and at least one will only surrender to allies.

Alpha Kodiak · #5 August 3rd, 2001, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Atraikius:
Wasn't there a thread a while back discussing AI demanding surrender, and something about the demand surrender/subjugation/protectorship not working?

Like stated earlier - the AI surrendering all depends on how the AI was set up. Some will never surrender, some surrender easily, and at least one will only surrender to allies.

That is correct. At this time you can't make the AI demand someones surrender. Believe me, I've tried.

Antonin · #6 August 3rd, 2001, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
I'm sorry Natsef-Amun... but the SE4 AI behavior to accept/reject surrender, is very predictable and logical. You only need to check the corresponding Politics.txt file!

I know I *could* check the politics.txt file, but I don't. I really like the uncertainty. To me the *process* of competing against/fighting/defeating the AI is the fun thing. Checking out the AI files in advance would kind of ruin my little fantasy of running a space empire and struggling for survival against hostile aliens, etc...

CW · #7 August 3rd, 2001, 05:39 PM

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Like stated earlier - the AI surrendering all depends on how the AI was set up. Some will never surrender, some surrender easily, and at least one will only surrender to allies.

Surrender to ALLIES?!? How does that work?