OT: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...

[Suicide Junkie]

Starhawk said:
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again, the guy is right about one thing there never has been proof of black holes what so ever we've just beleived the scientists that pulled the "black hole" theory out of their "black holes" heh.

1) Degeneracy Pressure cannot hold up a dead star over 1.4 solar masses.
2) There have been found binary systems which:
a) have a compact companion (white dwarf/neutron star or better)
b) which are over the chandrasekhar limit. Eg. 3 solar masses, 8 solar masses, etc.

My opinion:
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, lets call it a duck... Then poke sticks at it and try to peek inside.

[NullAshton]

Maybe its a goose/duck hybrid?

[El_Phil]

Ahhh Duose, a fine meal. Especially if you force feed them oranges then make pate de foi quack.

[DarkHorse]

Careful, I hear quack is habit forming.

[Slick]

So, one person says black holes don't exist and suddenly that cancels out the huge body of evidence and the vast majority of the scientific community who do think they exist? That just doesn't do it for me.

This just goes to show that you can't force someone to believe in something against their will. If their belief is strong enough, some people will find ways to reason away anything. I find it amusing that this guy's "dark energy" theory is even more controversial than black holes but he has no problem believing in that.

[AngleWyrm]

Dark matter is one explanation for a mathematical equation about how much matter is supposed to be in the universe--which doesn't add up. Adding dark matter makes it add up. It is supported by the absurd rationale that 'dark matter is too small to see/measure', so it could exist (we'll never know).

And as for that "huge body of evidence" for black holes...that's exactly the entirety of the evidence that I have found. "everyone knows" isn't science, it's social acceptance.

Scientists get to saying some really whacky stuff -- like Schroediger's Cat. I think Schroediger was kidding, that he was making a cynical joke for people to see the obvious fallacy. But everyone took him literally because he's famous. It backfired, and people ran around going "the cat in the box is 50% live and 50% dead until we open the bag" If I put a camcorder in the box with the cat, does the cat suddenly stop being 50% live and 50% dead? What if instead of a camcorder, it was just a rock? I could take the temperature of the rock, and determine when body heat stopped affecting it...

[mottlee]

I Here by Volinteer to go look for one!!!!


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