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April 16th, 2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
Though i didn't see that battle (cause i died on turn 3  ) i would say that iron dragons would have been excellent probably .
1 iron dragon and lots of scs would have been enough likely .
If the iron dragon is placed rearmost and with hold orders he shouldn't die . Hence no routing .
Then one or 2 petrify spammers and a few thugs with moonblades or similiar .
AQs are imho far from invincible .
2-3 ghost riders beat a single AQ unless it has very special gear like robe of invulnerability + charcoil shield .
Then the AQ has no quickness though . Another weakness of the AQ is their rather low strength without a storm .
A single AQ can't cast storm though because it would fatigue her .
A dual AQ , one as SC , one as staff of storm bearer + wrather is far from invincible also . Especially the staff of storm bearing AQ is very vulnerable .
Petrify , blindness or paralyze work wonders .
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April 16th, 2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
"I actually rather like the lateral levels in the strategy... That is to say, it's cool that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It would be boring if the same answers would hold all the time. If you always had to face the enemy's rock with a rock of your own, how would that be fun?"
I was really pissed off, Jurri, don't listen to me.
I was just venting man. Seeing that other army of mine survive 7 (?) ghost riders without barely a scratch has made me feel a lot better. See, that is what my armies are good at: guys with weapons coming at me! These tricky Air Queens casting all those fancy spells are just too much for my poor Ulmish brain to handle.
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April 16th, 2005, 02:43 PM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
New turn is up. I got lucky with the paralyze, but I'll take it.
Of course, the whole "lose your entire army to a single unit" thing that followed really sucks, but that's what this game is about after the initial phases(whether I like it or not).
Many people like that aspect of the game (almost an RPG type element in equiping your characters/SCs)so I guess if I want a shot a winning I better make some concessions in that area and build a few of my own. I've tried to win without them, but have always lost badly in the end.
Maybe one thing that will happen in Dom3 is to have nation specific summoned units instead of everyone using the same units(Tartarians, Bane Lords, Ice Devils, Air Queen, etc.) Why should Pangaea be playing with Undead? Doesn't feel right.
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April 16th, 2005, 03:33 PM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
"Why should Pangaea be playing with Undead? Doesn't feel right."
I totally agree man, that is kind of a strange aspect about this game. Oh, and SCs don't always help that much, btw. Damn Air Queen!!!
So, what are we planning on doing here, Jeffr? I am Earth Attacking Jurri 4x a turn, also assassinating at least once a turn, so I'm killing off his researchers and various other mages. I'm also inciting unrest across his empire. It appears to be working, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's still not hurting too bad for cash.
I have one good army that will take the AQ to stop, I guess. Whenever she shows up, that army is likely toast. So, it's not like I can be invading him very effectively, I'll do what I can.
He is slowly gobbling up my uncastled provinces.. If you have anything good going on there, try to do it as quick as possible. I'll see how many of his SCs I can kill... Sigh. Unless you have some sweet stuff in reserve, I think we are doomed.
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April 16th, 2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
I had some small advances, but I can't seem to stop his combination of ghost riders and Tartarians. He hit me with about 7 Ghost Riders last turn. Where does he get the gems if he's also pelting you with GR?
He is also taking my provinces now so it doesn't look good.
I killed one of his Air Queens last turn (along with a few air elementals and some sylphs - mabye that group that you faced?). I also killed an Ice Devil and luckily (no pun intended) charmed one of his Tartarians, so now that particular bad boy is working for the good guys in green  I took one of his castles as well in that battle, but it's a farm province and didn't have any gem sites.
In the Feldan Forest, he has another Air Queen and a Tartarian along with about 70 odd pieces of other crap. He has about 20 Jade Sorceress hanging around, too.
I continue to try to pressure him, but it's not looking good. But, I'm going to go down swinging, and you never know what can happen, so keep at 
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April 17th, 2005, 12:47 AM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
"I killed one of his Air Queens last turn (along with a few air elementals and some sylphs - mabye that group that you faced?)"
Sweet!! Yes, that was the group. Wow, that almost gives me hope. Maybe we can pull this one out after all, Jeffr. Is he attacking you at all? As long as you are gaining provinces, even if I lose provinces, maybe it won't matter. He's just got to be hurting from my earth attacks, and it seems like you've managed to take down a bunch of his SCs.
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April 17th, 2005, 07:21 AM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
Hell, I'm being outmaneuvered left and right! Great going, guys, I might lose yet... Although my sleeves are far from empty
I agree that the flavor of the game suffers from the, well, unbalance in the units. There still are enough viable options to stay interesting, strategy-wise, so it's tolerable.
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April 17th, 2005, 08:44 AM
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Re: Basking in the glory of Jotunheim!
Pst Jurri, any pointer on the use of Air Queens? All the Air Queens I summoned in the past became "Air Queen sauce", succulent food for the connoisseur, but slightly too expensive for my tastes.
Oh, and keep on fighting him! Fight to the last scout! Throw blood saves at him if they are you last fighters! Jurri must be crushed! Wait for him to make mistakes, and strike him down when he has fallen! Exclamation points shall rule the world!
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